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Posted on 13/09/18 11:59:48 AM
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Posted on 13/09/18 12:40:09 PM
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Set in Clochemerle no doubt.

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Posted on 13/09/18 2:41:50 PM
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Yes something horrible, sinister, about this I feel....


Love it. Very funny idea.



Funny^2

Not quite what I was thinking


Posted on 13/09/18 3:24:02 PM
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A lot of interesting solutions and well done.

Great Anna.

Michael, pissoir well done. I was going to comment. I've been into some strange ones in France, not least when its in the passage to combined ladies and gents, but blimey even in Cork when the ladies gets full they use the gents' cubicals, don't blame them, were not using them.
More interesting/weird maybe, my brain flipped: the reflection takes on a different perspective/view so I thought that utility might be between them, but self-righted afterwards.

Posted on 13/09/18 4:35:10 PM
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Set in Clochemerle no doubt.

Gordon, until you wrote that I had never heard of Clochemerle. I have since looked it up on Wikipedia and it seems to fill the bill. You are obviously well read.



Posted on 13/09/18 4:45:31 PM
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Trevor, we don't chat much. I hope you are keeping well. Thank you for your comments on pissoirs. That reflection was the most difficult part of the task and I spent ages trying to get it right, with only limited success. It is supposed to be a reflection and not a vision of a couple playing in the pissoir, although I can understand why it can be seen that way. I wish Steve would give us some tips on creating reflections based on his lengthy experience.

Posted on 13/09/18 4:57:44 PM
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It is supposed to be a reflection and not a vision of a couple playing in the pissoir, although I can understand why it can be seen that way. I wish Steve would give us some tips on creating reflections based on his lengthy experience.


I think the man should be the opposite way around so he is facing the same way as the back of the girls hat. Problem is, in this particular instance, his head comes too far round to be convincing.







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Posted on 13/09/18 6:01:24 PM
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Well we had the same idea Mariner but yours is somewhat more sophisticated!



Posted on 13/09/18 8:32:15 PM
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Sara, thank you very much for your kind comment.

I imagine it's soul-destroying not to have the time to show off your best.

Posted on 13/09/18 9:14:10 PM
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Gordon wrote
Set in Clochemerle no doubt.

Gordon, until you wrote that I had never heard of Clochemerle. I have since looked it up on Wikipedia and it seems to fill the bill. You are obviously well read.



Not too sure about the well-read bit Michael

Clochemerle was a series written by the excellent comedy writers Galton & Simpson (Steptoe & Son among others). It was based on a book by Gabriel Chevalier about a fictitious village in the Beaujolais region which had resolutely refused to enter the modern era and was still living in the 1920s. Scandal erupted when it was decided to build a new pissoir in the village square.

Some years ago I tried to find a copy of the BBC recording to screen in our own village hall to help raise funds for installing loos in the barn on our village green. Strangely there was opposition to the idea from some quarters; the wicked side of me came out when I tried to find the recording as the irony was obvious . Unfortunately it was some time after the funding was raised that I finally managed to find a copy of the film. Gentle comedy and good fun.

Still available on Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_5_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=clochemerle+film&sprefix=clocheme%2Caps%2C349&crid=2VUE4B3HM7QWT The series was screened in 1972 so it's not of modern quality but quite watchable.





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Posted on 14/09/18 01:32:31 AM
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That reflection was the most difficult part of the task and I spent ages trying to get it right, with only limited success. It is supposed to be a reflection and not a vision of a couple playing in the pissoir, although I can understand why it can be seen that way.


Agree. Yov'e done a great job.
I wasn't been a critique.
I've just made a very rough sketch to explain my confusion/strange thoughts of something between them,
Can do a more detailed professional version if anyone is interested. I guess the main points are the glass at about 45º is acting like a mirror (attenuated). The incident light rays are reflect back at the same angle inverted from the 90º perpendicular face of the mirror surface giving a perception of the image from a different viewpoint to the eye of the observer.
I'm sure Steve could explain better. I'm just a physicist who loves art.

I'll only send this because I think its funny for a very quick rough sketch





Posted on 14/09/18 04:43:47 AM
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David I see you have turned his head around 180 degrees. Good try, but no cigar!

Posted on 14/09/18 04:45:06 AM
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Trevor, I was struggling before. Now you have totally baffled me with science!

Posted on 14/09/18 04:55:32 AM
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Well we had the same idea Mariner but yours is somewhat more sophisticated!


Great minds think alike Deborah. And the longer you work on it the more sophisticated it gets.


Posted on 14/09/18 05:25:18 AM
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... It was based on a book by Gabriel Chevalier...

Gordon, until your first post I really, really had never heard of Clochemerle. What an amazing coincidence! No irony intended. First the scene was to be set in France, which I highlighted by adding the flag and the word "pissoir". Then the book was written in the early 20th century, so my costume idea wasn't too far out. Finally it was about a urinal in a village, so that old French telephone box I found on the web and converted into a pissoir was about the right period.
I have decided to do the lottery this week starting with the numbers 1,9,3 and 4!

Posted on 14/09/18 07:51:10 AM
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David I see you have turned his head around 180 degrees. Good try, but no cigar!


It's the right principle. He should be flipped ....... but not nearly so far. Simple fact is you can't always build reflections from the original viewpoints can be just too different.

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Posted on 14/09/18 08:35:54 AM
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...the original viewpoints can be just too different.

Ay, there's the rub...



Posted on 14/09/18 08:58:19 AM
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First to open the phone box was lwc, with a surreal tornado being escaped by three terrified-looking dogs. Most entertaining! A curious Uber cart in the second entry - is that a retaining bar visible through the phone box window? I don’t know which version of The Cabinet of Dr Caligari you’ve seen, but I don’t remember the pumpkin head man seen in the third entry

Superman, courtesy of Ant Snell, with a neatly opened door and - even more neatly - the old clothes hung up on hooks inside. Superman seems to have aged somewhat since the movies. And that poor girl looks like she should be strapped to a railway line!

It seems Josephine Harvatt has got all her ducks in a row, forming an orderly line. A nicely constructed shower - very cute. Even if there are the remains of a couple of book shelves visible through the door.

An artful pun from DavidMac, who has turned the phone box into a Tardis - or perhaps the other way around. But of course, it was a phone box originally. A nice idea, but watch your perspective:



A novel selection of reading matter in GKB's library - I can see why it’s quarantined in the garden. Maybe add a reflection or two on those glass panels?

Doomy surrealism from Ben Mills, with a high-toned image. I don’t recognise the creature in question, but I do like the way it’s peering out from the box.

Some extraordinary phone box stuffing from Jota120, with a decidedly uncomfortable-looking attempt on the world record. Splendid cramming. Those chaps in the other box seem to have got their sports a bit muddled up, though.

A mermaid in a box from tooquilos, with her trademark ethereal glow. A really beautiful image. A fine title screen for the animated version, with a great torchlit fairground. Love the leaking water, the discarded fishtail and the underwater castle - fabulous!

An interesting entry from michael sinclair, which manages to ignore the brief entirely. A novel approach to movement, but I’m not sure we really get the idea of the camera zooming along with the cart - and that could be because there are only two frames per rotation, which makes the track appear to pulse back and forth. I think a third frame might do the trick - and perhaps some motion blur to help the eye to read it. Oh, and while you’re at it, throw in a phone box.

A moody phone box from srawland, with a great pose from the man inside - well worth a credit. Only problem is the sign on the left door, which needs to be sloping down on the left more.

Deceptively painstaking work from Mariner, alluding to the recent Parisian complaints over the installation of all-too-public urinals. That’s a beautiful version of the phone box, with an intricately hinged door; best of all, though, is the reflection of the couple standing next to it, showing the woman from the reverse angle. I think for the reflection to be obviously a reflection it should include a bit of blue sky, otherwise it looks at first glance as if they’re inside the box. And regarding the discussion on reflections: Mariner has the angle about right, but the reflected couple are too close to the glass. They should be the same distance as the original couple - so in this case, they’d be out of shot. Move the original pair closer; and a slight twist on the boy’s head should fix it:



Interesting to see Deborah Morley’s take on a similar idea - a somewhat more discreet version! Very nicely done, a thoroughly convincing image. ‘Defense de prendre des photos’, indeed.

Interesting aside: my favourite French word is La Vespasienne, which I’ve used as the name of a fancy restaurant in at least one of my short stories. It’s an alternative name for a pissoir.


Posted on 14/09/18 09:15:29 AM
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A nice idea, but watch your perspective:


Subsidence ............

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Posted on 14/09/18 09:21:54 AM
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Thanks Steve, I must admit I didn't know about the Parisian complaints.What sparked my idea was the remembrance of the delicate aroma of public phone boxes after a busy Saturday night in the city!
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