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Posted on 21/09/07 3:30:13 PM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Quick and easy Floral and Fauna. That by far has been one of the most troublesome technique for me. But there's so much about the program I have yet explored! Oh, working with filters without exploding the filesize and crashing the program. 
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Posted on 22/09/07 01:12:00 AM |
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Pierre
Constructional Confabulator Posts: 637 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Managing images: linked or imbedded? Agreed with Chris about the filters and managing file size. Fill and outlines for type. Gradients: adjusing the colors (the little squares), flipping the colors, creatin complex ones. I do the following kind of illustration often and would like to enhance them quickly. Then I use this to explain different issues on the product through the use of layers. Layers/paths relationship in the layer palette is somthing to get a grasp on. I use Illustrator CS at work and don't own it myself.  _________________ |
Posted on 22/09/07 2:01:38 PM |
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stefan
Detail Demon Posts: 401 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Pierre! How cool is that! Now that's something I'd like to be able to do. |
Posted on 22/09/07 7:27:14 PM |
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Pierre
Constructional Confabulator Posts: 637 Reply |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Thanks Stefan! 
Well, it's quite easy actually. I used a photograph underneath and then created patches of different greys. The trick is in the layering. The first few times I did this I always got mixed up in my paths vs layers. 
Oh, by the way, I like the moustache Stefan!! _________________ |
Posted on 21/10/07 8:20:25 PM |
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da newb
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
I think it is a great idea! I personally find Illustrator somewhat confusing because it is vector based and therefore doesn't simulate real drawing. It is a very important program for illustration and design, though. If you published it, I would buy it. |
Posted on 27/10/07 11:04:51 AM |
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Claude37
Souris superbe Posts: 46 Reply  |
How to Cheat in Illustrator?
I agree with Tank172 ! I am new on this forum and I visit it with interest. I am particularly interested. As I pointed out in introducing me in the Reader's gallery, I use Illustrator since 1987. Early versions have made great strides with major steps such as color (yes!), gradients, layers (after Freehand!) The 3D vector, etc. Today, the two products are fully interactive and I personally find faster to use Illustrator for drawing and Photoshop to shape lighting. I believe that this technique is employed by Bert Monroy. I have learned it through a step-by-step between Freehand and Painter in 1997 if I remember well. I applied it with Illustrator and Photoshop. But I have been slow to use this method. (A problem of age undoubtedly!) 
I always heard beginners complain about the difficulty to trace Beziers curves with the pen. The new notion of grouped objects is also quite difficult to understand. The series of "Wow Books" is also one of my reference books. I think the "spirit" of "Cheat in ..." could be applied easily to Illustrator. But I think it is easier to cheat with Photoshop than with Illustrator !  |
Posted on 28/10/07 05:05:13 AM |
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flashflores
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
i'd buy a beginners book with good tips/techniques in a heartbeat....i have a BASIC working knowledge of illustrator, and would love to know a little more ornate/floral/currency type vector work..hell i'd love to learn anything, cause once you know the techniques you can apply then almost anywhere! Another thing i'd love to learn is realistic portraits, and hair |
Posted on 28/10/07 11:50:11 PM |
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BigVern
Q Quipper Posts: 674 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
I would be interested in getting a good book on Illustrator and judging by HTCIP you are the man. Steve, to produce that good book! |
Posted on 30/10/07 6:03:31 PM |
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Progenic
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
could somebody explain in simple terms 'Exactly' what illustrator is used for, why we need it ? and who and under what circumstances it would be essential in daily use ? I own illustrator CS3, along with indesign, livecycle designer, dreamweaver CS3, acrobat pro, distiller, pagemaker, flash and of course photoshop. To be honest i dont have the fainest idea how to use most of them, though i do realise im privvy to some serious software if i could only work out how to use it. thanks in advance |
Posted on 30/10/07 6:46:10 PM |
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Claude37
Souris superbe Posts: 46 Reply |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Both programs share many of the capabilities of the other. Illustrator is a vector-based postscript drawing program. It functions by generating curved paths (Bezier curves) connected by modifiable anchor points. These anchors, with their handles are ultimately editable. Photoshop can create "vector objects" like shapes and typography. So it can become confusing. If you need to create complicated graphics like maps, logos, schematics, or even publications for print like ads, brochures, menus, etc, -- particularly with typography -- then Illustrator is the one. Look back to the drawing of the boat made by Pierre. It is really easier to draw it with Illustrator, and quicker to change the colors. |
Posted on 08/11/07 2:11:17 PM |
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loonybox
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
I was looking for How to Cheat in Illustrator after seeing the one for Flash! I don't use Illustrator much because I DON'T KNOW how to use it and don't have the time to read long books and get my head around it. But I would love a good book with practical exemples from simple graphics to complexe ones. Also how to use illustrator for photomontages in Photoshop: this is to me the most important ; |
Posted on 08/11/07 6:02:14 PM |
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Claude37
Souris superbe Posts: 46 Reply |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
An example of using Illustrator and Photoshop "hand in hand" lies pages 340 and 341 of the Steve's book. In this illustration about urban pollution, made for "Capital", a french economic magazine, I drew chimneys with Illustrator and then I textured them and add lighting and shadows with photoshop. 
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Posted on 11/11/07 7:28:26 PM |
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Jason
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Hi Steve ......A book on cheating illustrator would be a good move. I think that a lot of people use illustrator as I do but don't know the full power of it. also I don't know off hand of any simular books on offer, when I was doing my college course It would have come in dead handy, thanks Steve......10 years too late! _________________ regards Jason |
Posted on 12/11/07 04:46:13 AM |
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Abby-Helen Artfield
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
This is photoshop and illustrator using a similar technique that Pierre described. Can someone please tell me how 'linked' and 'embedded' work? Thank you. Abby-Helen  |
Posted on 14/11/07 05:32:08 AM |
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Pierre
Constructional Confabulator Posts: 637 Reply |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Abby-Helen, "Linked" just means that the picture (that you imported in your Illlustrator porject) is linked to your Illustrator file, not part of it. If you move your file from its original location, or delete it, the link is broken and the image will not show anymore in your Illustrator document. You can re-link a moved image. "Embedded" jsut means that the image is actually integrated in your Illustrator file; this makes your file bigger but avoids the loss of linkage. Good if you have to send your document out for printing! I think that's what it si... _________________ |
Posted on 14/11/07 3:30:38 PM |
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dave.cox
Marquee Master Posts: 518 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
So, why you may ask, would I ever want to link a file? The advantage of linked files is, if you need to update the original file, you can just double click on it, and it will open in the original application for editing (Yes, it will do this even if you are still in Illustrator). After you are done editing, save and return to Illustrator, and your file will automatically update in Illustrator. Where this really comes in handy, is with Indesign. |
Posted on 14/11/07 7:12:45 PM |
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Progenic
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Dave Hi BTW what the main uses for Indesign ? I have the whole CS3 fleet and to be honest i havnt even started with illustrator, indesign or dreamweaver. I just wondered what the mian aspects were and how they differ from illustrator for instance ? Johnny |
Posted on 14/11/07 9:08:16 PM |
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maiden
Golden Gif Gagster Posts: 471 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
inDesign is a WordProcessor package for Book, Magazine, Newsletter layout or pretty much anything that requires critical word layout control and design - it intergrates with Photoshop and Illustrator for importing Graphics for the magazine, book etc. or exporting formatted text to the other packages, although all in all Photoshop can be used as a WordProcessor for designing Newletters so can Illustrator but more suited to Poster design. Dreamweaver from Macromedia (now owned by Adobe) can use aspects of page design and layout from the others for website design which is usually text orientated so anything that helps with kerning, formatting etc. is useful in Dreamweaver. Each of the programs have their own specific field of excellence but each can pretty much do a good job of designing anything related to text and graphics. But if you were to produce a professional magazine you wouldn't be using Photoshop or Illustrator for the Wordprocessing only for the importing of Graphics and Photos into inDesign. The same as when you are designing professional websites you won't be doing it entirely in Photoshop (even though you could in theory) you'd be using Dreamweaver with Graphics and Text from the other software. Pretty much all of the software of CS3 have hybrid capabilities but each has very specific functions that cannot be entire completed within just one all encompassing program which would take up most of your harddrive and eat your memory megabytes for breakfast, plus there is also the commercial aspect of having specific programs that tie in with others - why sell someone inDesign alone when you can buy the entire CS3 package with a nod to "Hey inDesign works seamlessly with Photoshop - think of the great graphic you could import into your professional newsletters!" |
Posted on 15/11/07 03:03:13 AM |
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Abby-Helen Artfield
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Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Pierre and Dave, Thank you both for explaining "linked and embedded." I appreciate it. Abby-Helen |
Posted on 29/11/07 1:56:23 PM |
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jwhite
Collage Critter Posts: 274 Reply  |
Re: How to Cheat in Illustrator?
Is InDesign replacing PageMaker? |
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