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Posted on 02/06/06 09:58:57 AM |
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Hank
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7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Have just installed Photoshop CS2 (6.02.06). The original pictures I saved in the former Photoshop program (vs. 7.0.1) do not appear as thumbnails pictures, but, instead, as CS2 thumbnail icons. Obviously, I need to be able to see the original pictures thumbnails. (This issue should have been programatically resolved by Adobe.) Anyone know how to convert the old picture thumbnails (now merely CS2 icons) into viewable CS2 thumbnails. Should be easy enough, and thanks, in advance. Hank |
Posted on 02/06/06 10:15:43 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
How are you viewing these icons? In Photoshop's open dialog, or on the desktop? Either way, you should be using Bridge. That will rebuild all the thumbnails in an instant. |
Posted on 02/06/06 6:04:26 PM |
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Bob
Expert Expressionist Posts: 130 Reply  |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Hank, Are you using Windows? It sounds like you want to view the thumbnails of PSD format files in the Windows Explorer. If so, that capability is no longer being provided. There is a serious bug in the Windows file system that the thumbnail generation (in Explorer) exposes and you can end up with unusable files. Some people have reported that they have even lost files. It's sporadic (having to do with multithreading in the OS), but you'll eventually get hit by it. I've personally encountered it. This is a problem in the Microsoft OS, Adobe cannot code around it. The safest course for Adobe was to remove the thumbnail dll. Steve is absolutely correct, you should be using Bridge. Be sure to get the updates as they fix some serious issues in Bridge. Current version as of this date is 1.0.4 which is only available via the online update feature in Bridge or Photoshop. |
Posted on 02/06/06 8:49:39 PM |
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Hank
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Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Thanks so much Steve and Bob for the "get-back"!! Firstly, I am using WindowsXP (home edition) on a Dell, Dimension 8200 computer, Intel Pentium 4CPU 1.90 GHz and 768 MB of RAM. (Apologize for this omission in my first send.) More specifically: The thumbnails I am refering to are the ones which were formerly saved of Photoshop (vs. 7.0.1) images in various image files in the "MY PICTURES" category of my computer as .psd files (some layered, some not) - not as .pdf files, nor any others for the web. At this juncture, I can go to any individual .psd picture thumbnail(now picture icon only - with the CS2 feather), click on it and it will open up just fine in Photoshop CS2 - layered or non-layered. Also, I can open it just fine in CS2 by clicking "File > Open" - or Control-O. No problem via either method of opening a .psd formatted image. The problem is that I need to convert the .psd thumbnail icon (formerly a .psd thumbnail PICTURE in MY PICTURES) back into a thumbnail picture in MY PICTURES so I will be able to tell what that/those picture(s) is/are instead of having to click on each one individually, open it to Photoshop CS2, then see what the picture is. Being new to CS2 I have not yet used Bridge, but have read about it and so am familiar with it and its' purposes. Further, I have not yet gotten the updates as I just installed CS2 late last night (Thursday, 6.1.06). This "thumbnail" problem is the only one I seem to be experiencing - so far. Understandably, I am anxious to clear this up so I can get on with the relatively small learning curve ahead of me and begin using CS2 productively. It would seem logical that even though I might access a given image/images via Bridge, that a .psd thumbnail of that image in MY PICTURES should be as it was in vs. 7.0.1 (Photoshop), and that is a small picture (thumbnail) of the image so I can browse the .psd formatted images within a given folder, see what they are and open it directly from the MY PICTURES image folders into Photoshop CS2. Finally, how does one get to Bridge? (This may be QUITE obvious as I scan through the new Users Guide, see the "Total Training Video Workshop" and just explore/experiment with this new CS2 program.) Thanks for taking time with me on this matter. Sure do appreciate it - especially when you have so many more important things to do. I hate being "off on my left foot", but we all have to learn/re-learn from time to time. Hank |
Posted on 02/06/06 11:23:29 PM |
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David Asch
Tech Support Posts: 1913 Reply  |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
To get to bridge, simply go to File>Browse. That should open it - well, it does on the Mac. It's a separate program so you should also have a link to it from the Start Menu/Desktop. _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 03/06/06 09:21:39 AM |
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Hank
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Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Thanks, David!! (You've helped me out several times before over the past year. I'm not on the forum very much at all. ) I went through the CS2 "Total Training Workshop" disk this afternoon, read through "What's New" in the User Manuel and updated (from "Help>Updates"). Additionally, I used several of the new CS2 features in a couple of works I'm on right now - including "Perspective" and painting/cloning in the new prespective function. All came out super on the first trial run!! I'm very pleased with the new Adobe purchase. (Why didn't you "rattle my chain" on it sooner. (Rhetorical question, of course.) Additionally, I found easy access to "The Bridge" - now fully configured, as Steve mentioned it would, via an icon located at the upper right of the Photoshop main work window, (if "work window" are the correct words for the work space blank page when Photoshop opens .) Opening "Bridge" allows viewing of my previously saved .psd images (not .psd icons) which are saved in various files in my photo images files. However, when opening these images files from Windows; MY PICTURES, the Photoshop (vs. 7.0.1) images, and even the new CS2 ones - are still represented via icons ONLY- next to other viewable thumbnail photos which are represented in the .jpeg/.png formats. Not cool!! I need to be able to see what the pictures are - and be able to, then, move or manipulate these photos within Windows XP files. I can't if I don't know what that picture is unless I click on it and have that single file open in Photoshop first. This is the ONLY lingering problem. Guess I'll have to contact a Photoshop tech. for the answers. I think something may be, possibly, mis-configured with the new CS2 program for it to be giving me these icons of the Photoshop images in lieu of the usually expected viewable thumbnails. Thanks again, David!! Hank |
Posted on 03/06/06 1:06:08 PM |
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David Asch
Tech Support Posts: 1913 Reply |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Hank, have a look at this. I think it's the same problem you are having. _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 03/06/06 1:59:23 PM |
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rufus
Destructive Demon Posts: 243 Reply  |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
I tried this and it works!! rufus |
Posted on 03/06/06 7:15:33 PM |
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Pierre
Constructional Confabulator Posts: 637 Reply  |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
I found this post by Dezolator on the Link Fest forum of this site a while ago. I did the fix and it works. I now have my icons back (actually they're thumbnails) in WIndows. Don't forget to restart the computer...It is similar if not the same as the one David is mentioning. http://www.howtocheatinphotoshop.com/cgi-bin/simpleforum_pro.cgi?fid=07&topic_id=1139253803 _________________ |
Posted on 03/06/06 8:13:54 PM |
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Hank
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Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Now we're all on the same page, same word! Thanks, David, Rufus and Pierre. I DID, in fact, un-install Photoshop vs. 7.0.1 completely (via the WindowsXP "Add or Remove Programs" facility) prior to my installing Photoshop CS2. After seeing the icons ONLY in lieu of the previous picture thumbnails, I had thoughts that, perhaps, I shouldn't have done that and simply had the new CS2 program un-install the old files and rebuild the new ones as it loaded and comfigured. Anyway, when I have some time tomorrow afternoon (6.4.06) I'll jump right on this fix that you guys suggested. The ones Rufus and Pierre suggested do seem to be, esentially, the same "fix" as you indicated, David. I'll get back to this section of the forum as soon as I install the fix with my results. (I feel better about all of this now.) All be well. Hank |
Posted on 03/06/06 11:53:35 PM |
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Bob
Expert Expressionist Posts: 130 Reply |
Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
Windows uses the psicon.dll module to generate PSD thumbnails. Psicon.dll is an Adobe module which was supplied by Adobe in previous releases but is no longer included with current products because of the problems people have been having with it. The "Fix" adds this module back and establishes registry entries so Windows can use the module. Many people have had no problems doing this but others have had severe problems. These have included crashes, excessive time to display a folder, files locked and appearing "in use" when they are not, etc. If you do use this "fix", be aware of the potential for problems and possible data loss. I used it successfully for quite some time before I started getting frequent " 'filename' is being used by another person or program" messages for no apparent reason. I haven't had this recur once psicon.dll was removed. I've gotten quite used to Bridge and don't miss the old way at all. Definitely take the time to explore it and learn what it can do. Also, you are a tad thin on memory and that will probably be a performance bottleneck, you might want to consider increasing your RAM. Good luck! |
Posted on 04/06/06 9:46:53 PM |
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Hank
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Re: 7.0.1 Pix Icon Conversion
OK. I downloaded the fix from the Photoshop Forum site which David directed me to (see above: "have a look at this"). Subsequently, I followed the procedures which GillyH, at the site, stipulated, unzipped the file and placed it into the following path: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Shell and double clicked on the psicon.dll icon (for registry entries) and clicked on "OK" when the registry entry was made, then restarted the computer. In short, and at first - this did not fix the icon problem. That was my fault! I had moved the unzipped folder, and its' "fix" contents to the shell folder. As soon as I moved the fix contents of the original folder (within the shell folder) directly to the shell folder and deleted the original folder (now empty) the fix worked. My bad! I should have unzipped the compressed folder, opened it and moved the CONTENTS to the shell folder. I don't do this kind of procedure very often - as may be obvious, but after a moment, or two, of thought on it I corrected the issue. Thanks so much to all for the resolution and input. The .psd thumbnails are back! Now, it will be easier for me to move files via Windows Explorer around, then open directly to Photoshop CS2 - OR use the Bridge method. TO BOB: Bob, thanks for the input (just above). I will, indeed, explore Bridge extensively - as well as the other new features in CS2. The only problem I have personally encountered - which you mentioned, is the one addressing a file which was purported to be "in use" when it was not - even when Photoshop (vs. 7.0.1) had been closed. (Got this message when I either tried to delete the file or move it.) This was simply resolved by leaving it alone, and then deleting or moving the file on the next computer start-up. So, no big issue, here. I can live with that - to have the thumbnails. Thank God, I haven't lost any data YET having the thumbnails in .psd. Seems to me I read on the forum that someone had lost Photoshop files subsequent to something he was attempting to do involving the web. (?) (Don't recall exactly.) Anyway, I am a graphic artist who uses my Photoshop program for hobby work only. I don't do professional things for the web or publications. But, DO work in Image Ready some for animations. Anyway, it's all for my personal entertainment and learning experiences. There are many-many features which Photoshop possesses which I simply don't need, but I try to learn everything I can about Photoshop in case I do. (User Guide, Classroom In A Book, Steve's publications plus others as well as lots and lots of experimentation and hours and hours of productive work.) On the memory thing: I just got with Dell a month ago and upgraded to the 768 mb of RAM - from the former 280 (or so). (Cost me over $400!!) I asked them if this was the highest RAM they could offer because I was running Photoshop - which they were very familiar with - and the 768 was all they could offer. (?) Since the RAM addendum, Photoshop runs and works VERY fast, and I have not had any further problems with massive "slow-downs" or crashes. So, for the time being, I'm satisfied. Also, it is my understanding that Adobe has made some program changes which allows for better and more efficient running of the program. Either way, I seem to be up to full Photoshop speed. Again thanks to all for the assistance!!! I appreciate your thoughts and especially the time/interest you took in replying. See you guys on "the other side" Hank |