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Posted on 16/04/25 1:06:32 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
These details are just wonderful. Words fail me. A physique that tells stories! You know I have always believed that really convincing 3D relies on deliberate planned imperfection's. The sun dried skin textures are just marvellous. In the end, the thing I find so absolutely perfect is not the obvious things, it's his knees! _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 16/04/25 4:31:55 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Thanks David. I did a lot for this challenge. I've got another starting in a few days and I've just finished one. Here goes the free time again...lol. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 22/05/25 10:06:20 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
So, I found some time over the last couple of days and decided to see if there was any promise in the decade and older Daz Studio models. Most are M3 and M4 version models. Although clumsy to work with, I believe they are definitely worth keeping in my archive.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 22/05/25 10:09:33 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Obviously, the reduction in resolution makes it look chunky. The original render is in 4K at 3840 x 1920 and looks great. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 04/07/25 07:55:47 AM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
I've been dying to do a Viking warrior render and eventually got around to it. This is not a pure render. I've added 30 plus Photoshop layers of water, painting and tweaks.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 04/07/25 08:16:32 AM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Very nice Dennis. As you know I am a bit paranoid about 3D figures looking too posed and rigid. She looks very natural, almost relaxed. The rest, atmosphere, ligh,;etc is also lovely. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 04/07/25 10:24:45 AM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Thank you, David. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 04/02/26 3:02:13 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
My challenge, with limited content and my wife's laptop, went quicker than I imagined. 
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Posted on 04/02/26 3:32:57 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
This is lovely Dennis! Very natural and relaxed. Would never guess this was 3D except, perhaps, the hair (which seems so often to be the Achilles heel in 3D). On a purely personal note, one thing I find a little disturbing is the lighting on her elbow. Being much stronger than the light on her face, it 'pops' and draws the eye too much. Because it's close to the large lamp on the right it may be quite correct in physical terms but I would 'cheat' it. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 04/02/26 4:51:34 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Thanks David. I tussled with that light. I soften the shadow line quite a lot. Only thing I could put it down to was how much paler the inside of the arm is compared to the face. I imagine there's a lot more sss happening there. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 23/03/26 9:39:44 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
This must be the weirdest render I've ever tried to attempt in Daz Studio.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 24/03/26 6:40:50 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
The duck rabbit illusion with the ambiguous head is one of the great classics. It is very old, certainly back into the 1800's. Like many illusions it depends absolutely on a unique view point, usually a very precise one. It's a strictly 2D illusion. If you were to rotate the 3D figures or move the camera it would almost instantly fall apart, to the point where it would soon not only cease to be an illusion but would, in all probability, become completely nonsensical. I think it would be far simpler to create in 2D, especially if you were taking the photos yourself. So I am curious why you chose to do it with 3D modelling, although I suppose if you set up your camera at the beginning you can model right from the start to it's unique point of view even if it looks like nonsense from other viewpoints. My guess is you chose to it in 3D quite simply because 3D is the medium with which you are most familiar and adept. And, for you, it's absolutely the right choice. It's impeccably done Dennis! Even though the duck head and neck are just a bit too seamlessly joined for the rabbit head to really work completely, the illusion is damn near faultless. Terrific. I am seriously impressed. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 24/03/26 9:04:05 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
That means a lot David, thank you. It is for a 3D challenge on at the moment. That's the only reason I did it in 3D. I would have preferred to do it in 2D but the render will be scrutinized by the judges. You are right. Turn the camera off center and the whole scene falls apart. There were so many challenges, I nearly did not finish it. I don't expect I'll come anywhere as the standard is pretty high but the reward is in the pudding...or porridge...lol. regardless, I enjoyed producing it. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 24/03/26 10:06:33 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Lets hope the judges understand just how critical both the modelling itself and the relationship of model to camera placement are for this to work and what a very unusual and difficult challenge you set yourself. Good luck Dennis!!  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 24/03/26 10:06:34 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Double post removed. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 24/03/26 11:38:14 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Thank you David. As past challenges and judging have gone, they don't understand art like an artist should. It seems a great deal of 3D renders are taken by the ease of using 3D models but don't understand how to marry them to a scene convincingly. Hence, the lifeless models and scene you see so often. "Your favorites"....LOL. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 03/05/26 5:04:06 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
 _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 03/05/26 8:50:23 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Dennis this is about as faultless as I have ever seen from you. I really can't think of anything else to say. That says it all. By the way I have posted something here which, with your knowledge of 3D, I think you might find interesting. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 04/05/26 2:54:41 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Thanks so much David. I spent more time pondering the scene than working on it as I'm in great discomfort at present. A month ago, I had mentioned that my plate was full. My wife slipped on the bathroom floor in the dead of night, from a water leak from a faulty geyser. She dislocated her knee and split her kneecap in half. Shes had it wired and will be out of action for a few months. Therefore, I have absorbed all the chores regarding the running of the household, managing her swim school and tending to her, my elderly mother and my ill sister-in-law. 2 days into the chaos, I accidently left the Jack Russel's gate open. The tiny tot, believing himself a lion, decided to take on my Boerboel. All hell broke loose on the lawn above my retaining wall. The 3 of us ended in a tussle, madly diving over each other, each trying to grab the other, until I managed to grab the J Russel by the scruff of his neck and lifted him to safety. I was close to the edge of the retaining wall (1.7m high). The Boerboel, still raging with adrenalin, launched at the Jack Russel and knocked me off balance, onto a big half meter clay Bougainvillea pot at the top of the retaining wall. It toppled over and deposited me over the retaining wall, onto the rock paving below. I managed to spiral in the air and land on my right side, luckily with my whole right side absorbing the collision at the same time. I couldn't sit and lick my wounds as I had released the J Russel during the fall and both where back into a brawl...well, the Boerboel was, the J Russel was merely tumbling in a ball in front of the bigger dog. I sprinted back into the action, cursing at the top of my lungs, madder than both dogs combined. Maybe it was the colorful language I was spewing out in pain and rage that helped in the tussle but I managed to separate them...rudely. I should have gone to see the doc but didn't want any excuse to convince me that I was unable to continue with my responsibilities. Maybe not the best decision as I believe I have a broken ring finger and fractured index finger on my left hand. (Almost a month on and my wedding ring only goes a third of the way on my finger). A fractured index finger on my right hand, a buggered knee that only allows me to squat if I'm prepare for pretty heavy pain. A right ankle that received blunt end trauma on both sides. It now pops out quite an unusual protrusion when I twist it. 2 fractured toes, a painful collar bone and a terrible blow to my right hip that has awakened an old rugby injury. ...but I'm alright....slowly....lol. I'm slowly mending though, although a bit more skew than before. The rest of my body is starting to match my nose now. That's been broken 7 times in rugby and beyond...but I haven't shied any of my duties. Although you'll read this quickly, it took me awhile to type...lol...eina! Wonderful link you posted David. Quite remarkable you still had that archived. Really worthwhile. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 14/05/26 12:50:19 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Daz Studio - worth it or not
Hi Dennis Sorry to be slow replying. What a story! Never rains but it pours. Don't put off seeking medical advice too long. We blokes have a habit of pushing stuff into the background until it becomes a crisis ........ and then we have to go! A few months ago I got out of bed and collapsed! My legs wouldn't support me. I struggled for a while on crutches presuming the pain to be muscular. After a couple of weeks it was so bad I had no choice but to see my doctor. She suggested that the cause might in fact be neurological and sent me for a full MRI scan. By now I could hardly move aside from a foot dragging shuffle even on crutches. The scan was sent to a neuro surgeon who insisted that I must come in immediately the very next day and be operated. He explained that I had a massive hernia that had penetrated between the vertebrae of my lower spine and was crushing my spinal chord. He warned me that if I didn't have it removed immediately I would suffer permanent and irreversible paralysis from the waist down accompanied by total incontinence. He was so deadly serious that I didn't hesitate ....... ......... he also made it brutally clear that I was a fool to have left it too long! I'm walking again now but need physio and constant exercises. I should have a close to full recovery over the next months but will always be weakened. So there's a moral Dennis. Sometimes it's not a good idea to soldier on regardless. Better to be sure you are not ignoring something better attended to. What I dismissed as a strained muscle or ligament was something far more malevolent. End of sermon ........... ! _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
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