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Posted on 13/11/05 6:29:39 PM
Dek_101
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Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
Well ... it's scary to me

Could anyone give me some basic guidance on colour profiles?

In particular, i'd like to find out which profiles work best for general printed work and which profiles work best for images intended for the web?
Is this something i should set before i start a project or can they be 'converted' afterward without thyem looking rubbish ?
I've spent alot of time on images before only to find that when i choose the option 'Save for web' the colours suddenly turn very VIVID.

I'm using Photoshop CS on a 17" Apple Powerbook if this is relevant.

I would be grateful for any information on the above issues and also any recomendations on books or websites where I could delve into the idea of colour profiles in more detail.

Cheers

DeK

Posted on 13/11/05 10:19:51 PM
maiden
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
When you Save to Web Dek check that you have "Uncompensated Color" on the Preview Menu (the little triangle in a circular button at the top right of your image preview box). This should ensure that the image is saved with the same colour profile as you view it in Photoshop.

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Posted on 13/11/05 11:01:34 PM
Dek_101
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
Yay!!! ... that worked .... thanks for that .... I still find colour profiles a bit of a mine field though

Posted on 14/11/05 4:50:19 PM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
Colour profiles are, absolutely, a minefield.

The only thing you really need to do is change the default Photoshop colour space from sRGB to RGB. sRGB is a colour space defined by Microsoft and Hewlett Packard that was designed to make business graphics look better in Windows. It's a dreadful, limited, oversaturated colour space that makes everything look awful. Use either Adobe RGB, or - my personal choice - monitor RGB, which is fine as long as you trust your monitor.

Posted on 14/11/05 7:31:00 PM
Dek_101
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
Thanks for the advice Steve ... I've now calibrated my screen and made sure that my photoshop colour profile is set to Adobe RGB ... hopefully i should see some imore pleasing results in my output ... thanks again to Maiden

Posted on 16/11/05 6:23:02 PM
Kevin P
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
Stvee - colour management must be crucial for you. Do you use a manual mointor calibrator ?

When you are comissioned by a magazine do they give you specific requirments regarding colour info, etc ?

Also, when preparing a montage for newspaper, do you ucse CMYK?
thanks

Posted on 16/11/05 6:43:10 PM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
I don't use any kind of calibration - I just trust what I see on my monitor! It's a 23" Apple Cinema Display, so as a digital screen it's not as subject to colour variance as a CRT screen would be. Essentially, you just have to learn what colours will work, and which ones won't. Experience, more than anything, I suppose.

When I'm doing newspapers or magazine montages, I always supply them with RGB images. This is because all professional publications will have a custom CMYK transfer curve they've developed through experimentation with their printers; they simply apply it to all their images at the end of the process. All that's really requied from me is for all the colour I use to be within the CMYK gamut!

When I'm preparing the artwork for my books, however - including Cheat - I get the colour transfer data directly from the printers, then simply put that into InDesign before outputting the final PDF files.

Posted on 18/11/05 8:52:01 PM
Lexus
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Re: Colour profiles (scary stuff !!!)
At 19:43:10 16/11/05, Steve Caplin wrote:
I just trust what I see on my monitor! It's a 23" Apple Cinema Display.


Puts mine to shame!

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