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Posted on 22/02/06 04:11:39 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply  |
Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Hi everyone! I've gotten myself in a bit of a bind and connot figure out the problem. I'm a real estate marketer and have taken a digital photo of a property that will be featured in next months cover of a magazine. I have successfully retouched the photo, and scaled it to the proper dimensions that will be used for the mag, also saved as JPEG with minimum compression. Printed out a proof, and all is very good. I composed the email to be sent to the editor, attached the files, and saved the message with attachments in the "draft" bin on my yahoo account. I opened the attachment to double check the photo quality before I sent the email. Printed the photos and to my astonishment, the grass is far too, dark, green, small bushes nearly BLACK, bricks have w a y too much contrast, and the overall look is HORRIBLE to go to print. What can I do to make this better, better yet...What did I do wrong??? any suggestions will be most appreciated as these photos have to be sent in by 9:00 am tomorrow morning and it is now 11:09 pm here. Warm Regards, Chris |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:21:15 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Hi chris... I had a problem with color at the start with Photoshop... till I set the Adobe Gamma (it's in the Control Panel)... double click on it and use the wizard to help you set it up... just follow the on-screen instructions....and then save it at the end... call it something you'll remember... like 'tanks color' or something.... this should set all the color of all your applications to the same....and hopefully then it will print out the same as it looks on screen... dunno if that will fix your problem..... but it's still worth setting up... hopefully someone else will read this and give you sum more ideas before tomorrow..... hope you get it sorted! |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:26:52 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Original Photo:  |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:27:21 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Retouched  |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:29:57 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Thank you Dalton, I'm gonna give it a shot. I may have some questions along the way, should I just post them here, or send you a message? >I'm still trying to figure out how this forum works.< Chris |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:31:39 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Just post it here... there's more chance that sumone else will look at it and come up with more ideas for you Dalton |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:39:02 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
how do I know what phosphors my monitor uses? It says it indicates that I have a HDTV......I wish that were the case. Should I set up custom phosphors RGB? |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:40:40 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Just go with whatever it has there... Adobe are quite smart at getting it right lol |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:43:01 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
HDTV is ok to go with |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:47:07 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
you could also try cleaning the print heads of your printer.. should be in the maintence menu of your printer sumwhere |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:50:13 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Wow! Huge difference when I opened up the file again after the wizard. Thank you. But why did it print accurately from photoshop, and so badly when downloaded from my yahoo account? For now, I'm going to adjust the hue/saturation to make the photo look better from the downloaded JPEG file off yahoo...since that's what the editor's gonna see. I hope this is the right approach. Thanks Dalton |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:52:04 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
I'm working late at the office, no internet or cpu at home.  The printer is a Cannon IR 5800 Laserjet. They maintain it pretty well. |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:53:34 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
cuz Adobe likes to own the color of your computer... and I don't blame them... their color is the best.... but other aplications don't share the color till the Adobe Gamma is set so according to Photoshop when you print from it.. all is well... take it to another application that has different color settings...and all hell breaks loose  |
Posted on 22/02/06 04:57:28 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Is their a way that I can match the color settings of each magazine and newspaper that I send work to? In order to acheive consistency from my granny pc to their "crotch rocket" computers?  |
Posted on 22/02/06 05:00:49 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
the color settings on your computer, now that you've set the Adobe Gamma, are all correct and will stay consistant on your computer... unfortunately other computers may not be so well set up... but now that you've set it... it should at least be of a high standard on any computer you send it to... hopefully lol |
Posted on 22/02/06 05:11:17 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Thanks for the advice Dalton. By the way...Do the window panes look real?? I'm a little picky when it comes to this kind of stuff...still not satisfied with the grass. I've nearly bit off more than I can chew with this design business I've started. Been working with photoshop less than 4 months and trying to make everything come together. Since I've bought Steves book, and visited this website. My skills have dramatically increased, and it's only been a couple of weeks since I got the book! I purchase the mouse and stylus tablet as mentioned in his book and I couldn't believe the added control. I plan to be a regular at this site. Very pleasent group of artists. *ok, i'll let off on the coffee*   |
Posted on 22/02/06 05:17:58 AM |
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DaltonX
Raster Reanimator Posts: 259 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
ooops!..was nearly away to bed there hehe.... it's way after 5am here.... as for the windows... I would select them and maybe darken them a bit.. closer to what they were like in the original.... good luck for tomorrow btw  |
Posted on 22/02/06 05:18:48 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Unfortunately, the gamma change still not solving the problem...  |
Posted on 22/02/06 05:20:08 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
thank you |
Posted on 22/02/06 06:17:06 AM |
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Bob
Expert Expressionist Posts: 130 Reply  |
Re: Big Problem...well... ..newbie problem
Chris, Besides the monitor calibration with Adobe Gamma, you have an issue with the image color space. I looked at the two samples you provided (Original.jpg and Retouched.jpg) and here's what I found. Original.jpg is untagged. That is, no color management profile is embedded in it. These types of files are considered to use the sRGB color space by implication. Retouched.jpg has an embedded Adobe RGB profile. Adobe RGB is not the same as sRGB and such an image will appear to have less saturation and contrast when viewed in an application that is not color managed. Since they are asking for a jpg, they will probably be expecting either an untagged image or one with an embedded sRGB profile. Use the convert command in Photoshop to convert from the Adobe RGB color space to the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space and then save the image. |
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