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Posted on 28/02/06 03:27:24 AM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply  |
Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
Hello everyone! Lately, I've had a number of realtors ask me about webpage design. Unfortunately, I don't have any software..except for GoLive CS2. Which has proven to be a bit stubborn in learning how to use.  I am 100% self-taught in the adobe CS2 package, less Steve's and some other books. (Thanks Steve!!!)  
With that said, I am in the market for some powerful yet affordable webpage software. I have spoken with the broker of the office about this and he recommend not using Dreamweaver. The reason is that if I were to create a webpage, and later on the Realtor wants to update or change their listing information, Dreamweaver created webpages are said to be 'incompatable' with other editing software, such as Frontpage. Is that true??? I have a dell with Windows XP. I wish to pursue webpage design on top of the advertising I am currently doing because webdesigners seem to get a lot more moolaah! So, if I had a choice...I'd like the easiest to learn, yet professional software that maybe could work directly with photoshop...For ex: Smart Objects between Illustrator and Photoshop. If that's possible? Any comments would be greatly appreciated!  |
Posted on 28/02/06 08:09:25 AM |
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trinityofone
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I use Dreamweaver mainly because it was the first program I tried and got along with (sort of!). I probably don't use an eighth of its features but it does the job. I think the incompatibility comes when you start really delving deeply into it. HTML is HTML at the end of the day. I use Photoshop to design the layout of a site and then work on it in DW. I'm sure it's feasible to create a fully functioning site in PS alone but it would probably be a little cumbersome and awkward to make alterations. It's worthwhile checking out shareware programs, too. Sometimes they are better than their expensive commercial counterparts. _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 28/02/06 09:38:46 AM |
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maiden
Golden Gif Gagster Posts: 471 Reply  |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
I agree with David, Dreamweaver is what I use too. Photoshop is great for graphics but would create very code heavy webpages. I know some people who even shun Dreamweaver for adding in javascript code automatically but these people tend to like to do everything from scratch and get very nerdy about code being inserted for them in WYSIWYG web design programs. When I started making my own websites (some years backs now) I used to own an Amiga A1200 and there wasn't many WYSIWYG programs for that platform so I had to learn HTML from scratch and having that knowledge comes in handy when Dreamweaver isn't producing the look that I want. As for compatibility I can't see any reason why you couldn't alter a Dreamweaver coded webpage using Frontpage if you wanted to that is, in reality once you've tried and become accustomed to Dreamweaver, Frontpage looks to be a much poorer product. Compatibility come in as far as Browsers are concerned because Internet Explorer will display tables and CSS in a different way to that of Firefox or Opera and therefore creating a truly cross-browser webpage is the really difficult part especially if you page elements are meant to align to a set format. That's where sometimes Flash/Fireworks is a good alternative to HTML especially if design is the critical element of your website. However there are some shareware WYSIWYG html programs that come in far cheaper than Dreamweaver such as CoffeeCup HTML Editor which although I've never tried myself there are a lot of good review about it. _________________ mad as a badger and twice as furry |
Posted on 28/02/06 3:27:40 PM |
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tank172
ThreeDee Thriller Posts: 692 Reply |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
Thank you for the comments. I'll speak to the Broker again as far as trying to use Dreamweaver. Is it a user-friendly program? I mean, back in High School, I designed a couple of webpages for small businesses with Frontpage 2000. It was pretty easy to learn. I haven't touched webpage design since...so I'm pretty much back to the basics. Furthermore, Does anybody use GoLive CS2...If so, how on earth did you learn how to use it??? Are there any reccomendations as far as a good book similar to Seve's How To Cheat Photoshop? Thanks again in advance |
Posted on 28/02/06 4:20:42 PM |
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trinityofone
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Dreamweaver looks daunting at first, much like Photoshop but once you realise that half the windows you get when you first start the program are not needed, it becomes clearer. The beauty (although sometimes a real pain) is the ability to design as a WYSIWYG system or down and dirty coding. Things only get sticky if you create things like editable regions in templates, etc. but if you stick to basic HTML, it's very easy to use. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 28/02/06 8:17:26 PM |
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Lexus
Persistent Pixellator Posts: 623 Reply  |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
How do you add text over a picture made in photoshop. Can anyone tell me hwo to make a site with the same layout as this site: www.dreamkichensuk.com thanks, Lex _________________ 3 Radio Visit http://www.3-radio.co.uk and listen! You will love it! |
Posted on 02/03/06 7:14:50 PM |
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Lexus
Persistent Pixellator Posts: 623 Reply |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
Sorry, gave a typo link. its www.dreamkitchensuk.com I have started doing pages in css. But there is a lot I need to know. Can anyone help me on it please? _________________ 3 Radio Visit http://www.3-radio.co.uk and listen! You will love it! |
Posted on 02/03/06 9:17:36 PM |
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trinityofone
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Not quite sure what you mean by adding text over an image. The obvious way would be to add the text in photoshop. If you mean editable text, you would need to set the image as a background of a table/cell. You have to be careful with CSS. Not all browsers (*cough* Internet Explorer *cough*) render CSS properly and a solely CSS based site will look awful. Personally, I only use CSS as a style shortcut for text and other small aesthetics. If you want to know how a site ticks, by far the simplest way is right-click and view source. Analyse the code and play about with it. It's how I learned programming and HTML, amongst other things. I may not be the best coder in the world but it works for me. _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 02/03/06 9:37:50 PM |
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Lexus
Persistent Pixellator Posts: 623 Reply |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
Wow David. Thanks for bringing that clever little button to my attention!! thanks! _________________ 3 Radio Visit http://www.3-radio.co.uk and listen! You will love it! |
Posted on 02/03/06 10:03:09 PM |
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uk2usadaz
Designer Dynamo Posts: 70 Reply  |
Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
You have to be careful with CSS. Not all browsers (*cough* Internet Explorer *cough*) render CSS properly and a solely CSS based site will look awful. Not of they are done right 
I've use Dreamweaver from the early days and it's by far the best web software out there. Thats why its the industry-leading web development tool. Dreamweaver created webpages are said to be 'incompatable' with other editing software, such as Frontpage. Is that true??? Its the other way round Frontpage *cough*INSERT NASTY WORDS HERE*cough* is incompatable. I use Photoshop or/and Fireworks to design the layout of a site and then work on it in DW. The idea is to do the web site in PS then pop on over to DW and get rid of the parts you from the web site that you can do in DW. Which can be alot when it comes to CSS. _________________ Look upwards and share the wonders that I see. |
Posted on 04/03/06 4:12:02 PM |
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trinityofone
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You might want to try NVU. It's absolutely free and available on Mac, Windows and Linux. It just received the official thumbs-up from MacUser magazine. _________________ It must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays |
Posted on 04/03/06 4:35:15 PM |
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Lexus
Persistent Pixellator Posts: 623 Reply |
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Does it run on Ubunto Linux?? _________________ 3 Radio Visit http://www.3-radio.co.uk and listen! You will love it! |
Posted on 04/03/06 4:37:52 PM |
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trinityofone
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Clicketh the link and read with your eyes _________________ A happy-go-lucky chap, always dressed in black |
Posted on 04/03/06 4:38:37 PM |
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Lexus
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Re: Lets talk...Webpage design for Photomantage artists... ..shall we??
Errm. Ok lol _________________ 3 Radio Visit http://www.3-radio.co.uk and listen! You will love it! |