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Posted on 30/09/05 05:35:40 AM
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Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
Aloha all!

I am a newbie here so please be kind & try to overlook my ignorance.

I just bought this book and right off the bat I have a problem. There are references to keyboard actions but some of the keyboard symbols as printed in the book are unrecognizable!

Specifically, if you look in the back cover jacket, the 3rd & 4th down from the top. The shortcut label is "Temp Move Tool" and "Temp Dodge Tool" respectively. The FIRST icon in those menu items is totally bizarre and I have NOTHING on my USA keyboard that looks like that mess! Whatever it is.

Is there anyone that can translate those symbols?????

I am just trying to learn how to remove the annoying halo effect when removing an object from it's background.

I am basically doing chromakey stuff. A simple main subject against a green background. I make a dupe layer & remove the green but I get a small annoying green glow edge around the image.

I have been removing it pixel by pixel at huge zoom values and it's making me mental!

So I but this book to help. Get it home & I can't read the keyboard symbols!!!!!! I'm going insane!!!!

Can someone please help me???!!!!

iamdsg2001@yahoo.com

Posted on 30/09/05 05:36:07 AM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
Cheerz!

Posted on 30/09/05 07:41:58 AM
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Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
At 05:35:40 AM 30/09/05, iamdsg wrote:
Aloha all!

I am a newbie here so please be kind & try to overlook my ignorance.

I just bought this book and right off the bat I have a problem. There are references to keyboard actions but some of the keyboard symbols as printed in the book are unrecognizable!

Specifically, if you look in the back cover jacket, the 3rd & 4th down from the top. The shortcut label is "Temp Move Tool" and "Temp Dodge Tool" respectively. The FIRST icon in those menu items is totally bizarre and I have NOTHING on my USA keyboard that looks like that mess! Whatever it is.

Is there anyone that can translate those symbols?????

I am just trying to learn how to remove the annoying halo effect when removing an object from it's background.

I am basically doing chromakey stuff. A simple main subject against a green background. I make a dupe layer & remove the green but I get a small annoying green glow edge around the image.

I have been removing it pixel by pixel at huge zoom values and it's making me mental!

So I but this book to help. Get it home & I can't read the keyboard symbols!!!!!! I'm going insane!!!!

Can someone please help me???!!!!

iamdsg2001@yahoo.com


Hi and welcome to the forum!

Those strange keyboard symbols are most likely in red and are the Mac shortcut keys (Command and Option) which are the same as the PC's ALT and CTRL (there's a key at the bottom of the page tab).

Hope this helps,

David

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Posted on 30/09/05 10:31:01 AM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
David's right about the symbols - I've included them for both PC (blue) and Mac (red), so just look at the ones that are appropriate to you.

As for the halo thing, the simplest solution is probably to delete a 1-pixel edge around your object. However, it all depends on (a) how you're selecting the green in the first place, and (b) the quality of the original images.

Can you post a sample here, so we can take a look? We might be able to suggest a better method - perhaps which can be automated - of removing the chromakey background.

Steve

Posted on 30/09/05 8:16:18 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
D'oh!

Boy am I a dope! You're right, naturally. I didn't see the keyboard symbol key at the bottom of the page. I was thinking it was some sort of Brit keyboard symbol or something. You know, like "Lift" vs "Elevator". Hey, what do I know?

Here is an example of what I'm doing (as per your request). I am making 3D images on green screen to be layered over backgrounds. Here's a before & after (If I can figure how to get the images up)

Before........

Cheerz!





Posted on 30/09/05 8:17:07 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
After (low res).....



Posted on 30/09/05 8:20:17 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
Thanks for posting the images. The guy's rendered in Poser, surely? In which case, you can just export him as either a TIFF or PSD file with an alpha channel, then read that alpha channel to extract him automatically from his background.

If this isn't the case, I'm sure we can find a simple workaround!

Posted on 30/09/05 10:39:36 PM
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What!
Poser can export in .psd format???!!!!

D'oh! I didn't know that & if so it's gonna save me lots of time in future. However, since I have already made several images in green screen and saved them as jpegs it would be easier to mask & remove the backgrounds rather than rebuilding the assets in Poser again.

I would still like to learn the way to remove the halo effect residue that I get after using the magic eraser.

Cheerz!

Posted on 30/09/05 10:55:57 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
PS....

I have even tried using the Primatte Chromakey filter and the Corel Knockout2 and they work OK but they still leave that annoying halo around the masked object.

Cheerz!

Posted on 01/10/05 09:04:44 AM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
There is a quick way of making a halo-free selection of your figure by using Select>Color Range... and clicking the eyedropper tool with "Fuzziness" set to 175 on the chromakey green backdrop ensure that you have checked the "Invert" checkbox to invert your selection and create a mask of the selection in your Layer Palette then click on the layer mask to select it and apply Filter>Other>Minimum... and apply a value of 1 or 2.

You could even make an Action of this to quicken the whole process and knockout any image with a chromakey green backdrop or use Automate>Batch... to knockout an entire folder full of images with Chromakey backdrops.


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Posted on 01/10/05 12:14:28 PM
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Edit: I Agologise for the comment wrote in here.

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Posted on 01/10/05 6:21:30 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
At 8:20:17 PM 30/09/05, Steve Caplin wrote:
Thanks for posting the images. The guy's rendered in Poser, surely? In which case, you can just export him as either a TIFF or PSD file with an alpha channel, then read that alpha channel to extract him automatically from his background.

If this isn't the case, I'm sure we can find a simple workaround!


Steve,

Thanx for all your help. I did find that I can export the Poser renders in .psd format but I have no idea how to render it with the background removed.

You mentioned something about an Alpha Channel????? I have no idea what that is or what you mean there.

Cheerz!

Posted on 01/10/05 6:29:31 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
At 09:04:44 AM 01/10/05, maiden wrote:
There is a quick way of making a halo-free selection of your figure by using Select>Color Range... and clicking the eyedropper tool with "Fuzziness" set to 175 on the chromakey green backdrop ensure that you have checked the "Invert" checkbox to invert your selection and create a mask of the selection in your Layer Palette then click on the layer mask to select it and apply Filter>Other>Minimum... and apply a value of 1 or 2.

You could even make an Action of this to quicken the whole process and knockout any image with a chromakey green backdrop or use Automate>Batch... to knockout an entire folder full of images with Chromakey backdrops.



Maiden,

Man, that would be GREAT! If I could have a one keystroke command that would knockout an entire batch of green screen images! WooHoo! I don't really know about the tools you're talking about but I'll look and try a step by step & see if I can't figure ot out.

I use Photoshop Elements 2.0 for the most part and I assume that these tools are basic to even Elements. If not I have Photoshop 5.0 and if that doesn't do it I would even upgrade if I could make this process happen.

Thanx for the tip!



Posted on 02/10/05 09:53:32 AM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
I should imagine that Photoshop Elements has Select>Color Range... but I'm not so sure about Other>Minimum... Steve's the man to ask about Elements.


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Posted on 02/10/05 12:21:33 PM
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Re: Help with a keyboard symbol & removing a halo effect....
Elements 2 doesn't have Color Range, it does have the minimum filter though.


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