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Posted on 26/02/05 10:29:31 AM
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Self test section?
A thought occured to me, how about having a few quick-fire self-test questions for each chapter, nothing too taxing but it could be a good part of the learning process.

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Posted on 26/02/05 11:38:42 AM
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Re: Self test section?
That's a good idea. Something like the 'Review' section in Adobe Photoshop Classroom in a Book series, where they ask when a certain blending mode would be useful, or what a certain layer effect does. Good for making sure you know everything and didn't just scan through it idly (like I often did).

Posted on 26/02/05 5:18:57 PM
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Yes that does sound like a good idea, I wonder at what stage Steve has got the book up to yet whether it would be feasible.


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Posted on 26/02/05 7:23:31 PM
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Does that mean I wont be able to skim through chapters anymore (learning later, to my impatience) that I have missed a vital piece of imformation??

Sounds like a darn fine idea!

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Posted on 27/02/05 9:48:31 PM
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Re: Self test section?
OK, I'm intrigued - especially as so many of you seem to think it's a good idea. What kind of questions are you thinking of? How many would you like? Just verbal, or some with images as well?

More importantly, isn't there a possibility that with one at the end of each chapter - and there are three extra chapters, making 15 in all - that people would feel cheated by so much space being taken up with them? Or perhaps they could go every other chapter. Would answers be provided? And if so, where?

Tell me more, I really like the sound of this.

Posted on 28/02/05 00:32:58 AM
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Re: Self test section?
Originally, I'd thought of the cheesier side of the whole thing, such as multiple choice "Which of these could be used to change the colour of an object?" That type of thing, but your mention of images got me thinking: How about having a 'challenge image' on the CD, the same format as you post in the forum - something to experiment with and the 'answer' such as it is, would be in video format on the CD, kind of like a tutorial in reverse. That way, it makes you think about the techniques covered in the chapter(s), you can try it for yourself, if you get stuck, you refer to the video. Obviously you could watch the tutorial first but I think it would be a good learning method.

Maybe a mixture of both or have the challenge section at the end in one section?

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Posted on 28/02/05 09:48:23 AM
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Re: Self test section?
I def think that maybe a simple version of your Friday Challenges would be a good idea. You could even have a link to this Forum where readers can post their images and get some feedback on them, would mean lots of new members .

Or does that complicate matters more?

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Posted on 28/02/05 5:16:38 PM
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Re: Self test section?
I think that it would be more appropriate for the self-test questions to be on the more difficult chapters of the book - for example you mentioned a chapter on Perspective Transformation that would be ideally suited to a self-test set of questions or tasks to complete. For example

Task A: Using the Free Transform Tool skew this rectangle to make this parallelagram/rhombus.
Task B: Create a selection of the rhombus and extrude it in an upward direction.


This is only a simple example but it's the kind of thing that helps people understand the use and function of the various tools

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Posted on 28/02/05 6:24:15 PM
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Re: Self test section?
Yes, that makes sense. Were you thinking there should be answers as well? Or just questions?

Posted on 28/02/05 6:51:40 PM
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Perhaps answers at the back of the book, but it may not be necessary if for instance that the chapter explains the use of the tool or method then the tasks should be self-explanatory from what the reader has just read.

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Posted on 28/02/05 9:21:41 PM
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This is great, open source writing - whatever next?

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Posted on 03/03/05 08:26:21 AM
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Re: Self test section?
Sorry to be the sole dissenting voice, but self-tests after each chapter would be such a waste. They stink of page-filler, and would be very much out-of-place in Steve's tour de force book.

Any valuable extra pages could be much better used expanding chapters in much needed areas - perspective, for example.


Posted on 03/03/05 08:43:07 AM
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Re: Self test section?
Paul, you've either been reading my email, or you're just very perceptive. Yes, there is a major pespective chapter going in. Self tests may well put in an appearance, but certainly not after each chapter - maybe just two or three spreads in the book. I've been giving this a lot of thought, and I think that done in the right way, they could be a really valuable resource - much like the Friday Challenge, in fact.

Posted on 22/04/05 8:22:17 PM
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I agree with Paul on this one... How about they just go to the Friday Challenge? We could use more people here. I think the best self test is showing your image to other people.

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