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Posted on 07/10/25 2:54:39 PM
Ben Boardman
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River


Like others, I have been curious. This is a combination of sci-fi art, Photoshop, and PS nano banana. I apologise in advance.

This image took more time than my other entries combined.

The octopus is the AI


Posted on 07/10/25 4:55:24 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Ben Boardman wrote:
Like others, I have been curious. This is a combination of sci-fi art, Photoshop, and PS nano banana. I apologise in advance.


I haven't downloaded Beta yet. The demo's I've seen of Nano Banana are terrifyingly good. Complete changes of viewpoint even! If you look here there is a comparison of Nano and Fluxx. Very interesting. Nano still looks very AI. Fluxx is less exciting but starting to look real!

Either way, I find the prospect of the richness of a fifty five year career that took me all over the world, enabling me to meet and work side by side with people of so many different cultures and mindsets, being replaced by sitting in a semi darkened room in front of a screen is not one that I am able view to very positively.

Like it or not that is what's going to happen.

Sorry Steve off topic! If anyone wants to carry on this discussion may I suggest we move it to General Comments.



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Posted on 08/10/25 10:57:08 AM
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Before moving this thread to General Comments I am doing one more post in response to Ben's entry. It's relevant because it's a direct response to Steve's challenge. I downloaded PS Beta and did it using Gemini.

Ben said his took a long time. I can understand that! Dealing with Gemini is like dealing with an infant Photoshop Prodigy with genius ability at Photoshop and very little comprehension of anything else. I tried to get it to replicate my own earlier entry. I am not an expert in prompt writing (although I read up on it) and it gets very frustrating. The image I am posting here took twenty five prompt modifications and refinements to reach it. I shan't say more here. I'd really be curious to hear other's experiences in General Comments. I'm not free at the moment but I'll post there myself in a couple of days.

I will say only that I feel very slightly better now about my own earlier effort. I think it has more fun and energy.

Doubtless there's a prompt for that if I could find it .............




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Posted on 08/10/25 11:53:01 AM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
DavidMac wrote:
Before moving this thread to General Comments I am doing one more post in response to Ben's entry. It's relevant because it's a direct response to Steve's challenge. I downloaded PS Beta and did it using Gemini.

Ben said his took a long time. I can understand that! Dealing with Gemini is like dealing with an infant Photoshop Prodigy with genius ability at Photoshop and very little comprehension of anything else. I tried to get it to replicate my own earlier entry. I am not an expert in prompt writing (although I read up on it) and it gets very frustrating. The image I am posting here took twenty five prompt modifications and refinements to reach it. I shan't say more here. I'd really be curious to hear other's experiences in General Comments. I'm not free at the moment but I'll post there myself in a couple of days.

I will say only that I feel very slightly better now about my own earlier effort. I think it has more fun and energy.

Doubtless there's a prompt for that if I could find it .............





The human won that contest hands down David!

Posted on 08/10/25 12:57:19 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Some great work here, love your video Gordon, nicely done. I see there has been some Beta Ai experimentation as well. See my remarks in last weeks challenge.
Some very subtle reflections in this challenge Steve (particularly in the water - mans face, woman looking up - noticed some entries went after the main reflections and missed those in the water area.
With so many entries covering the water as presented I wanted to try a different approach - not sure if it worked.No AI used.




Posted on 08/10/25 1:16:47 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Thanks Frank.
Not sure if you were commenting on my image or not but, just to confirm, I don’t use AI in any of my images. I prefer to have the flexibility to do my own thing and not rely on some algorithm to create them.

Great idea with the skating rink.

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Posted on 08/10/25 1:42:20 PM
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Love the rink idea Frank. Very nice!

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Posted on 08/10/25 1:46:02 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Thanks Gordon, no i wasn't referring to your image.
I was referring to Ben and David "trying out" the new Nano Banana in PS Beta.

Posted on 08/10/25 3:57:12 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
GKB wrote:
I don’t use AI in any of my images. I prefer to have the flexibility to do my own thing and not rely on some algorithm to create them.


I think my antipathy to AI is well known here Gordon. I agree with you entirely! But part of me feels that it's better to speak from a position of having tried (which I barely have). There has been so much excitement over Gemini I felt I should see for myself what the fuss is all about.

Strangely, I find the better AI gets, the less I like it.


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Posted on 08/10/25 5:51:25 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Back in 2004 I took a series of photographs of an albatross skimming the waves of Drake Passage. In 2013 I cut out the bird from one of the images, dropped it onto a cloud backdrop fitted it with a couple of jet engines and did two versions of airline logos, one Virgin Atlantic and the other Air New Zealand. I found it a quite pleasing composition and I had total control over the final image.

Two weeks ago I received an offer of creating a couple of free trial AI images. One was along the same lines as above. The only thing I liked about the AI image was the quite amazing speed that four alternatives were presented to me. All were good-ish but lacked that 'i made this myself' feel. I felt that all creativity had been taken away and I had an image that wasn't actually mine. And since it was a flattened image it was only editable with lots of work.

I can see its uses but just not in the GKB household. Can't see me using AI much ... but never say never








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Posted on 08/10/25 9:36:11 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Gordon. Yes. Yes.

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Posted on 09/10/25 12:31:08 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Very nice work by everyone!

A beaver built a dam and the river is now a pond, help me to imagine the frog croaking and the dragonfly fly by, as it is not-animated.



Re: Imgur – I’ve tried every possible alternate to Imgur, but none even come close. Giphy did the best but downsizes the animation and appears to degrade the overall quality thus making the small subtle movements that I like to make virtually impossible to notice, plus it adds tags and links to other animations. So, at least for now, animations are a thing of the past.

Posted on 09/10/25 2:35:13 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River NO AI


Posted on 09/10/25 4:01:40 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
lwc wrote:
So, at least for now, animations are a thing of the past.


What I know about this is zilch and I am sure you have checked out everyone but, just in case, have you tried here?

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Posted on 09/10/25 4:01:41 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Double post removed.

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Posted on 09/10/25 5:24:04 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
DavidMac wrote:
lwc wrote:
So, at least for now, animations are a thing of the past.


What I know about this is zilch and I am sure you have checked out everyone but, just in case, have you tried here?


Yes, I could upload the gif and save the link, but got an Error 403 Forbidden when I tried to use it.

Posted on 09/10/25 8:09:37 PM
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I find web and browser issues so frustrating. When you go for help they tend to become the everyone blame every one else situation. The unaccountability game.

Have you checked this with their support?

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Posted on 09/10/25 9:15:58 PM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
I was going to David, but became frustrated and have decided to quit trying to find a solution for a while... maybe again in a week or so. Totally burned out for now.

Posted on 10/10/25 08:08:11 AM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
lwc wrote:
I was going to David, but became frustrated and have decided to quit trying to find a solution for a while... maybe again in a week or so. Totally burned out for now.


Yes. I can definitely relate to that. The frustration of trying to cope with these sorts of problems can be incredibly enervating.

But we don't want to lose you Loyd!

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Posted on 10/10/25 08:14:38 AM
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Re: Challenge 1074: Louis Vuitton's River
Mariner. That's very simple and elegant. Well done on the reflections and water.

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