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Posted on 14/07/26 00:48:30 AM |
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lwc
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Had some experience with curiosity and red buttons David? 
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Posted on 14/07/26 00:50:24 AM |
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lwc
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Early Martin Baker Mk2 testing using land speed record car, the Sunbeam, but it failed to launch. 
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Posted on 15/07/26 00:34:46 AM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3629 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Engineer briefing management on latest Martin Baker Mk2 test data. 
Volvo engineers stolen from DavidMac, management courtesy of photoshop.london. |
Posted on 15/07/26 10:51:31 AM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 6334 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Oh that's very clever Loyd. Despite having paid for it, Volvo had no interest in keeping the ejector seat (a superb replica made in London by specialist film model makers) so it ended up in my young boys' room. Needless to say, they loved it! _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 15/07/26 4:40:53 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
I have to be honest and accept this is really rather dull. One way and another we seem to have covered the 'ejecty' stuff so I am currently out of ideas.  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 15/07/26 5:12:37 PM |
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lwc
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
I'll bet they did. As far as an idea, give this one a go David. I'm surprised that no one has used the Aston Martin DB5 of Goldfinger fame yet... I'm not going to do it, I'm through for the week. 
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Posted on 15/07/26 8:52:47 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 6334 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
007 was my first thought! But by the time I had my new graphics system up and running Ben had already posted an automobile ejection (which was what prompted my Volvo ad) and Anna too, so I moved on to Big Red Buttons ................. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 16/07/26 12:22:04 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
 _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 16/07/26 12:26:23 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
I ran this through ai. What a lovely cut-away. I have no idea whether it's authentic but regardless, it's appealing.  _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 16/07/26 2:02:26 PM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3370 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
NO AI 
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Posted on 16/07/26 3:51:16 PM |
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GKB
Magical Montagist Posts: 4194 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Dennis, it’s a 1/32 scale model Gloster Meteor F.8/FR.9 made by plastic kit manufacturer REVELL The Meteor F.8/FR.9 was a late-model version used as a fighter (F  and photo reconnaissance (FR9) aircraft._________________ Have you ever noticed that all the instruments designed to detect intelligent life are pointing away from the Earth? |
Posted on 16/07/26 5:43:56 PM |
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dwindt
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Thanks, Gordon. Rather than using the MK2 Sketchfab model that we both used for our initial images, I searched for a reference showing the MK2 with a cockpit cut-away. The closest match I could find, both in terms of the cut-away detail and the pilot's seat perspective I was aiming for, was the 1/32 scale Gloster Meteor F.8/FR.9 plastic kit by Revell. I downloaded images of both the aircraft and the MK2 plastic kit cockpit. I then manipulated the pilot's seat from the brief into the Revell cockpit and proceeded to build the aircraft fuselage around it. Once I had completed the composite, I became curious to see what AI could produce using my image as the reference. I prompted it to generate a realistic cut-away version based on my composition. The image with the black background is AI's result. I thought it turned out to be an excellent interpretation, so I posted that one as well. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 16/07/26 9:12:55 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 6334 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Michael I have mixed reactions. I could choose to question that the pilot appears to be performing the aeronautical equivalent of standing up in a hammock ....... a feat possibly quite difficult in enough breeze to keep the canopy so beautifully inflated under such difficult circumstances. However, I know you like to look on your images as digital 'paintings', so I am choosing to grant you full artistic license because, to my eye, it is an impeccably executed illustration. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 16/07/26 9:49:09 PM |
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DavidMac
Director of Photoshop Posts: 6334 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Yes, it's very convincing. It would be interesting to know if AI itself has any idea whether it's authentic or not. AI is incredibly good at plausible which can muddy the waters, but, given that it works from its access to an almost limitless catalogue of similar imagery, there must be a very high probability that much of its choice is entirely authentic and accurate. But does AI know what it's choosing? ............ or is it pure probability? Seems we are entering a new age of cyber philosophy.  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 17/07/26 01:03:58 AM |
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dwindt
Realism Realiser Posts: 1126 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Take yourself back many decade, I loved these cutouts. Did you ever wonder whether they were legit then...what can you remember about them...the wonder of the engineer, the statement of mankind's creation. I still feel that from this image, correct or not, the marvel of man's creation is evident. Had it have not been identified as such, would you recognize the difference. Gordon pointed out exactly which model, year and version it was. _________________ The grass is greener on the other side of the fence because there is more $hit there. |
Posted on 17/07/26 06:58:52 AM |
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Mariner
Renaissance Mariner Posts: 3370 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
David, thanks for your critique. Part of the fun of this game is creating something unique. This week I set myself the task of painting something almost believable without using aeroplanes, motor cars or rockets. After much thought I came upon the idea of a parchute which gets tangled with a church spire in a high wind. My internet searches failed to find a real life photograph and imagination also failed me here so, obviously, I used an undamaged canopy and added my own ropes. Now, I didn't want the pilot sitting down looking stupid with a helmet on so I had him inspecting the damage. For that he needed to take off his helmet. That also stopped him looking as if he had hanged himself. Why not? He is having a very bad day! |
Posted on 17/07/26 08:27:27 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
First to fire up the ejector seat this week was GKB with some useful historical background information as well, as expected. Glad to see I picked the right seat! The ejection here works well, although that slight motion blur has more of the appearance of an inappropriate drop shadow. I like the flying canopy, but there’s something rather plastic about the plane itself. Plenty of jiggling from lwc, who certainly makes ejection look like a desperately uncomfortable experience. Yikes! I like the ejecting jet, although surely the canopy would fly off backwards, relative to the camera, rather than down? Also the jet appears to have grown a blue beard. I feel sorry for the Sunbeam driver – is that a salt flat? I especially like the way you’ve repurposed David’s Volvo engineers in your screening studio, with terrific jiggling movement all round. A very accomplished animation. Of course, I had exactly that model Aston Martin DB5 as a kid, and I can see that, just like me, you’ve lost the original figure and have replaced him with (unlike me) a Poser model. Ben Boardman’s automotive poster is glorious, full of drama and beautifully composed. The typography, I’m sorry to say, is excellent. Won’t AI leave us needing any learned skills? You say the flames are from a real EV fire – now that’s a scary thought. Altogether a fantastic piece of work, Ben. Can’t fault it. I loved seeing the Major Oak again, and I’m still wondering how you managed (a) to distort that parachute, and (b) to entangle it in the branches. Immaculate. What’s the relevance of Charlie Brown and Linus? I enjoyed DavidMac's 1980s Volvo commercial – amazing all this was managed in one take, with no CGI! An intricate testing facility, but you’ve really made a rod for your own back by choosing a background image with such bizarre perspective distortion! This could explain the odd disparity between the sizes of the boys. I like the two looking up on the left, but the one on the right seems to be standing to attention. Good ejection! And cute typography. The seat fits neatly into the steampunk carousel, although it would be scary if the thing actually went off. The carousel reminds me of the one at Les Machines de l’Ile in Nantes. Those who aren’t steeped in UK politics will be baffled by Ant Snell’s satirical jibe, but look up either Nigel Farage or Count Binface (previously known as Lord Buckethead) and you’ll read about the upcoming end of the pier shenanigans that will be the Clacton bye-election. This is a terrific entry, capturing the essence of the idiotic poll – and it’s good to see a ghostly Ann Widdecombe peering out of her cloud. Very fine work, Ant. I like how tooquilos's ejector seat has been fitted into a standard family car, its sunroof conveniently open to allow passage, all looking surprisingly plausible. The debased Ejector on the headrest is a good detail. I like how you’ve found a looking-up-at-the-trees background through the windows and sunroof in the animated version, as well as following the seat’s journey into space. Top job. High drama from dwindt, whose hapless pilot is being ejected from his own fighter jet (Gordon, please identify the model, year of manufacture and maximum velocity). The destruction of the port engine (see, I’ve watched Dambusters) is beautifully done, and I like the following plane (Gordon, over to you). I was going to say that the second plane looks a little static, but I see you’ve fixed that. Are both cutway images AI, or is the first one yours? They are rather beautiful. Again, it’s up to Gordon to verify their accuracy. Like you, I always loved cutaway illustrations. An intriguing and surprising entry from Mariner, with the ejector seat’s parachute caught on the top of an onion domed church. The pilot looking up draws your eye first to the cross and then along the horizontal to the parachute, telling the story perfectly. A fine assembly, David’s breeze issues notwithstanding. |
Posted on 17/07/26 08:35:10 AM |
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GKB
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Thanks Steve. The 3D model came with an unusual camouflage scheme. Had I had more time I would have made it the more usual peace-time natural metal finish complete with all the panel lines but no time and it has been like a sauna in my ‘office’. _________________ Whatever you do in life do it with the enthusiasm of a 4-year old in a Batman suit. |
Posted on 17/07/26 08:44:40 AM |
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Ben Boardman
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
I’m still wondering how you managed (a) to distort that parachute, and (b) to entangle it in the branches. Nothing special I Googled collapsed parachute in tree. The Kite-Eating Tree is a fictional tree in the Peanuts comic strip created by Charles M. Schulz. In the comics, when Charlie Brown attempts to fly a kite, the kite always ends up tangled in the tree. Schulz considered the tree one of the series' 12 major set pieces. Thanks Steve. There's no way I could have matched ChatGPT typsetting. A Challenging challenge. |
Posted on 17/07/26 09:04:08 AM |
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GKB
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Re: Challenge 1113: Mayday! Mayday!
Gloster Meteor Mk2 being shot down by Russian or North Korean Air Force MiG 15 using, presumably, an ‘Atoll’ air-to-air missile. Having said that those missiles were in their infancy in those days and the MiG would more likely have used its 23mm cannon for the shot. As for the speed question, on 7th September 1946, Gp Capt E M (Teddy) Donaldson set a new world record of 615.78 mph flying EE549 (a Meteor F4)off the Sussex coast at Rustington. Hope this is not too nerdy  but you did ask🤣_________________ Why is it that all the contestants in the ‘Miss Universe’ contest are all from Earth? |
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