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Posted on 25/08/06 09:40:23 AM
Steve Caplin
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Re: Contest 110: Insufferable institutions
It's not often I have to do this, but this week I needed to have the original photograph in front of me to compare it to your work. So many excellent entries, it was often hard to tell what was real and what you'd made up this week.

First off was GKB, with a great party scene - and good to see a return of the doorway from last week's Challenge. Great walls - particularly fine use of perpsective - but the floor's rather too bright, it distracts our attention too much. And I'm not sure those doors would meet in the middle when they're closed! The fireworks are a good addition, and the subtle shadow behind the clown works well. The ceiling, though, has been extremely well constructed: this kind of perspective distortion isn't easy!

Plenty of wacky goings-on in vibeke's post, with an interestingly varied population. The added window is a good touch (perspective needs tweaking a little), and that door has been beautifully opened (although I do think we should be able to see through the glass). Is the trumpeter a little diminutive? Or have we just forgotten about the horizon line head-height thing? I like the wheel chandelier!

A truly splendid entry from michael sinclair this week. So much great detail: the new floor (which runs right through the doorway!), the vending machines all in correct perspective, the brighter, fresher feel to the whole hallway. A couple of issues, though: distorting the floor to match the hall perspective has also sheared the view through the doorway. Better, I'd have thought, to slide the floor across to the right, undistorted, and then clone some more in on the left. And there's something just a little dodgy about those shadows! Oh, and while I'm nitpicking, the ceiling doesn't quite fit the top of the left hand wall... overall, though, this is great work, Michael.

I think this week sees the best work yet from james. Perfect perspective on the floor, a subtle glass effect through the doors at the end, especially on the man in the chair; great wall decorations, and the addition of the two plants adds greatly to the scene. Just a couple of issues here: the ceiling perspective doesn't quite match, the woman's a little too small, and we really need some shadows on the floor. That aside, though, you've done really well here! And there's some real exuberance in the second entry, with a pair of fine opened doors. The people are a little too small, perhaps - and crikey! Those walls! less saturation, please, and don't forget the shading!

Welcome, Johanna - and thanks, also for including an avatar. I really do like to see what you all look like! The jigsaw concept is a good one, and the pieces themselves are well drawn with perfect shading. The only thing I'd point out here is that while some of the pieces are rotated, the hallway on those pieces isn't. It does rather break up the realism! We look forward to more of your work here.

Artfully opened doors from dave.cox, with a chair and desk that set the scene nicely. And do I spot a Lighting Effects sign on the wall there? My only problem here is the view through the doorway, which seems to be at a difference perspective from the rest of the hall. Remember, too, my tip about following the floor through any open doors!

An intriguing Middle Eastern hall from jefferson, which looks like a really fun place to be. The two girls fit well, and tucking the rear one behind the table adds greatly to the realism. A couple of awkward perpsective issues with the carpet and the ceiling, though - and doesn't Osama lack a limb? Oh well, at least he's been rendered 'armless.

Fantastic camouflage from redrum, with a good sense of perspective and an artfully concealed paintballer tucked neatly around the corner of the wall. This should certainly liven up office teambuilding exercises! Well done getting some reflection in that mirror top right - a nice touch.

A glorious entry from Deborah Morley, whose total hall upgrade has made the place far more appealing - helped greatly by the raised ceiling. Lots of good detail here: the glow around the chandelier, the hand drawn anaglypta wallpaper beneath the dado rail, the intriguing shadows. I especially like the way the painting on the back wall disappears around the corner: this technique greatly accentuates the sense of there being more of the hall around there. I have a couple of small perpsective problems here: the left edge of that table is pointing in the wrong direction (it should slant to the left, not the right) and the dado rail on the left wall is at slightly too sharp an angle. Overall, though, this is an excellent piece of work, and one which certainly earns you a title. Hmm... no details filled in in your profile, so I don't know anything about you... so shall we say Makeover Magician for this entry?

We're used to hand painted detail from Char, and there's plenty of it here: the mirror ball, the padding on the door, the tent ceiling... and, of course, a great joke as well. The only thing I'd change is the brightness of the reds and blues: a little too oversaturated to be truly convincing. What a lot of work went into this!

A fine carpet and wall texture from Wayne, with a well-opened door and a good figure coming through it. The door glass works particularly well! Two very small perspective problems: the bottom of the open door goes up at too steep an angle; and, as in Deborah Morley's post, the left side of the plinth is pointing in the wrong direction. Damn, this perspective thing is tricky!

A beautiful piece of work from Eggbox, with fantastic wall textures (and the far wall is even reflected in the mirror!). I really like the dust sheet on the floor, and the shadows are exceptionally good. A couple of odd perspectives on the people, though. If the man's head is so much higher than the woman walking around the corner, then we must be sitting down to view the scene. But then the woman painting is too low, and too small! It's a hard thing to get right; look again, and try moving the man down a little way.

A great new wallpaper and carpet from Sophie, complete with reflection in the mirror. The sign, picture and window all work well; but remember to add some thickness to doors when opening them. The view through the doorway is too large, and a bit too high, though. And while the wallpaper works well on the far wall, it should be in perspective on the sides! And, regarding Eggbox's recommendation of 500 Model Poses: this is a great image source, so be sure to check out the html link on the How to Cheat CD, as this offers a special discount to our readers.

I've been puzzling for some time over Whaler's post: a bunch of people on their knees in front of someone doing something unseen with a tin bucket. There's also something multicoloured in there that I can't quite make out. What's the hidden message here? Please put me out of my misery! I like the way the hall on the left has been removed, though - even if it seems to have taken the man's chin with it!

A fantastic black light scene from Bob, who has managed to capture the effect really well - especially on the glowing footprints on the floor. And there's Jack Nicholson ready with his axe behind the glass! Great reflections in the floor - a nice touch.

I think this week also sees the best animation yet from eyal fitoussi: an epic story, beautifully constructed with a tremendous sense of humour (as well as an enormous degree of skill). Eyal, this is fantastic! Thanks for entertaining us!

Posted on 25/08/06 09:57:22 AM
GKB
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Re: Contest 110: Insufferable institutions
Hi Steve,
Thanks for the comments.
I probably won't be participating in the next couple of FCs as I am off to the sunny(?) North West of Scotland shooting a few landscapes.
I hate to say this but, reference your comment on the ceiling, errrrmmmm, well, er......I cheated!
Gordon

Posted on 25/08/06 10:09:56 AM
Wayne
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Thanks Steve. Yes, I see it now!

Sophie, thanks also. With regard to doing the whole book before participating in Friday challenges: If I were you I would continue as you are. Personally I have learned a lot just by doing them. I have read the whole book (and continue to re-read many chapters), but not done all of the exercises.

Eyal, just brilliant!

Posted on 25/08/06 11:04:00 AM
Deborah Morley
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Many thanks Steve, I kept looking at the table top and thinking there was something wrong, then I looked after your comment and it was glaring! Very appropriate title actually.

Posted on 25/08/06 11:40:38 PM
Sophie
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Thanks Steve for all the "feedback" on my own and everyone else's picture. Amusing reading too. Very informative.

Sophie

Posted on 26/08/06 03:20:25 AM
dave.cox
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Thanks for the Feedback Steve. I'm here to improve my skills, so I really appreciate the info.

Posted on 26/08/06 04:00:53 AM
Johanna
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Thanks all, for the welcome. Happy to be here.

Thanks, too, Sophie, for finding what I didn't find about posting more than one.

And,Steve, thank you for making me aware of what I didn't even seem to think about, Yes I rotated the puzzle pieces, but didn't rotate the clipped image! Something to remember for the future, appreciated.



Posted on 26/08/06 04:39:39 AM
eyal fitoussi
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thank you deborah , char and wayne for your comments. and steve , i just trying to do my job as an ace animator the best . i am happy that you like it.

Posted on 27/08/06 7:49:55 PM
Whaler
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Re: Contest 110: Insufferable institutions
Steve Caplin wrote:
I've been puzzling for some time over Whaler's post: a bunch of people on their knees in front of someone doing something unseen with a tin bucket. There's also something multicoloured in there that I can't quite make out. What's the hidden message here? Please put me out of my misery! I like the way the hall on the left has been removed, though - even if it seems to have taken the man's chin with it!


Steve, there's no real hidden message behind the kneeling people. To reveal to you and everyone else the secret, please find the main pictures I used attached.



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