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Posted on 24/03/11 00:10:00 AM |
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Dooley
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Oops  _________________ I've fallen and I can't get up. |
Posted on 24/03/11 00:24:04 AM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Great image Rob. I think I prefer snooker. When I play it though, its too difficult, just to connect white ball with red or whatever colour difficult enough. My friend though is very good. I feel like an idiot. Table Football rules! So might say thanks for Pool which even I can win some times 
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Posted on 24/03/11 00:37:44 AM |
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Dooley
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Thanks. I'm still waiting to see yours, now that you've done a straight one. _________________ I've fallen and I can't get up. |
Posted on 24/03/11 00:42:49 AM |
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zombie67
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Really like that, Dooley. Love the shadows! Now you should do one with Charlie Brown and Lucy. |
Posted on 24/03/11 00:44:10 AM |
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zombie67
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Like it, Josephine. What is it with these kids? You turn your back and they are up on the table! |
Posted on 24/03/11 04:03:38 AM |
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vibeke
Kreative Kiwi Posts: 2166 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Somebody had to do it..  _________________ Perfect confidence is granted to the less talented as a consolation prize. |
Posted on 24/03/11 09:02:18 AM |
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laddition
femme fatale Posts: 585 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Godd job, all! Here's mine!  _________________ Mais je me connais, je lâcherais pas l'affaire.... Je vais piquer de grève comme on pique une colère... Plus têtue que tous les vieil homme et la mer... Pour que continue le combat ordinaire! |
Posted on 24/03/11 12:38:43 PM |
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Deborah Morley
Makeover Magician Posts: 1319 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Shadows - ugh  |
Posted on 24/03/11 12:44:20 PM |
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josephine harvatt
Gag Gadgeteer Posts: 2603 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Cor L'addition ! they really need to turn the central heating down in there - come to think of it I'm feeling a bit hot under the collar meself _________________ I'm not really bad - I just draw that way |
Posted on 24/03/11 2:37:40 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Nice later ones folks. Must get one of those 6-packs myself 
Anyway, if don't mind, second attempt to, err, fix(?) earlier attempt. ..... sorry a creative one later, I hope.  |
Posted on 24/03/11 3:29:43 PM |
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Marty
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Nice Trevor! The angle on the reds look much better this time. _________________ Life is a great big canvas, and you should throw all the paint on it you can. ~Danny Kaye |
Posted on 24/03/11 4:30:30 PM |
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puffin31939
Montage Mariner Posts: 383 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
No-one wants to play anymore. (Short of time this week - though I seem to have spent ages on this!)  _________________ Man cannot change the direction of the wind but he can adjust the sails |
Posted on 24/03/11 4:54:59 PM |
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josephine harvatt
Gag Gadgeteer Posts: 2603 Reply |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Cheers! _________________ I'm not really bad - I just draw that way |
Posted on 24/03/11 4:57:11 PM |
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sutex
Specular Specialist Posts: 157 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
yeah, need to be stripped to its minimum ... it is hard to show two balls to the world, one is elegant in this case |
Posted on 24/03/11 9:24:17 PM |
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Jota120
Ingenious Inventor Posts: 2615 Reply |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Thanks Marty, looks better to me too, though I have still not visited a snooker club to check this angle! I ran out of time last time, or rather needed some sleep. Last one...in tribute to "Hurricane Higgins" a brilliant snooker player, albeit he went off the rails and had a troubled life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Higgins  |
Posted on 24/03/11 10:39:58 PM |
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LonnieK
Diorama Dreamer Posts: 238 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
He said it was a POOL table!  _________________ Lonnie |
Posted on 24/03/11 11:09:27 PM |
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Marty
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Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Beautiful Lonnie.......Er.......I mean your work really !  _________________ Life is a great big canvas, and you should throw all the paint on it you can. ~Danny Kaye |
Posted on 24/03/11 11:55:02 PM |
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michael sinclair
Off-Topic Opportunist Posts: 1871 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
No time this week 
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Posted on 25/03/11 09:54:48 AM |
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Steve Caplin
Administrator Posts: 7052 Reply  |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
First to get on the table this week was zombie67, with a highly convincing mid-match position. And for those who were wondering, the quote at the beginning is from a snooker commentator in the early days of colour television in the UK. I particularly like the other player sitting over at the side - a very well-judged, well-executed piece. I like the tone of Garfield72's entry, but feel I have to point out that this assembly of balls isn't possible in snooker - you have to pot all the reds before starting on the colours, and then they're in a strict order. This minor infringement aside, there's a slightly larger one: what happened to the player's legs? Shouldn't we be able to see his feet on the carpet? The D is good in the second entry - the spots would have been good, too! I like the placement of the balls in the third entry, but a couple of things: the rosette on the wall is much too bright and saturated; and, er, why is she pointing her cue the wrong way? A perfect setup from Nick Curtain, with all the balls the correct colour and in the correct place - and I like the way you've dimmed the lighting in the room so that the table really shines out. The added baseline and D are excellent - and in case you were wondering why they weren't visible in the original, it's because you've turned the table around. Although I do think drafting in members of your own family to praise your work is going a bit far... Good to see katew back - and a neat trick, indeed! A great pose from the player, too. When you place the cue on the table, though, remember there need to be shadows cast from more than one light source - this would be a tricky one to simulate. Sorry to hear things have been difficult for you, Kate. A new member this week - and munchonu has really got the spirit of the forum, with a host of exotic animals, one wearing a Newcastle United shirt, playing on the coolest tigerskin snooker table I've ever seen. Great shadows, excellent poses - and great attention to detail, such as the way you've shifted the texture on the nearby cushion, and the hippo just disappearing out of sight. Placing the potted reds in the racks under the pockets is inspired. Fantastic work, Doug - welcome to the forum! I understand where brewell is coming from: it's hard to look at a snooker table without thinking of a country house murder. Of course, inviting Poirot to any gathering more or less guarantees it. A great selection of characters, but should they all be lined up on the far side of the table like that? The line looks a little artificial. But it is good to see Eggbox again, wrapped around the table leg! Incredible work from James, with a ghostly snooker table clearing itself - complete with moving cues, and rests where needed. Extraordinary! My only issue is that you've potted the balls in the wrong order (should be green, brown, blue) - what's the matter, James, didn't you have a misspent youth? A beautiful arrangement from Marty, with well-judged positions and sizes: it's hard to work out exactly where the blue ball should go, but I think you've got this just about right. The colours are perhaps a little too bright on the pink, green and yellow, but I don't imagine they play a lot of snooker in Denver... and great shadows, too. A terrific image from tooquilos, whose kids are bringing all manner of toys and extra balls to the table... you're not going to tell me you found pictures of kids playing snooker, surely? These must be your grandchildren! I love the fact that one is standing on a chair. And great action in the animated version! The interaction of the ball and its shadow is really nicely achieved. A good arrangement from Eggbox, although I doubt the officials would approve of either the cue tip resting on the table, or the perilously perched glass of lager. Good to see you've woken up from your slumbers at last, Great action from PDelavigne - I like the position of the player on the table. The caption is far too small to read, though: what does it say? And you need to check the rules - you can't leave that combination of balls on the table... A ghostly image from Niavyls1980, with the table transplanted to an eerie setting. Beautiful styling, but you do need to watch your horizon: the sky here comes far too low for the perspective of the table. I liked Jota120's fixed version of the table - good work getting those reds into the correct formation. And a real first for you, Trevor: strictly on-topic, exactly as instructed, with not a rampant gorilla to be seen. Congratulations! Oops... I spoke too soon... A minimalist approach from sutex... did you really draw that? It looks too, well, photographed. More information needed! Plenty of extra balls from Josephine Harvatt, complete with wading toddler - very cute! Although for extra marks, some of the balls should show up in the racks beneath the pockets. But is there just too much perspective on those balls? A great idea from Dooley, with a football game taking place on the table. I like the relative sizes of the pitch and the players, which is nicely judged. My only problem, really, is with the shadow under the ball. He's kicking it, right? Which means it has to be in front of him. But that shadow places it behind the other player. (Unless, of course, it isn't a shadow at all, but just a smudge. In which case, you need a shadow!) Not sure Vibeke's trio are strictly playing according to the rules of snooker, but they do bring a little much-needed glamour into the game. Er... you do know that in all these table games, the only ball you hit with the cue is the white one? Talking of glamour... I can see how laddition passes the time on her fork-lift truck, day dreaming... these two may not be following the traditional rules, but they do add more visual interest! Shadows, ugh - Deborah Morley's comment. Indeed, with six light sources, it does become something of an issue. But there's so much interesting interaction here we don't notice them... great expressions! A very (cough, cough) atmospheric (cough) scene from puffin31939 - maybe they should give up smoking in there! A great arrangement, with very good extras - the glasses of beer (just spotted the second one) and cue leaning against the mantelpiece are excellent. The players really aren't showing much interest, though, are they. Watch those pools of light on the table: they're too narrow for the shape of the shades. A glorious pool scene from LonnieK, who does seem to have a fondness for the glamorous image. I really like the way the water fits into the table, and the cascades through the pockets - how did you remove the background from that water so effectively? What really does it for me, though, is the hugely convincing puddles of water on the carpet. Difficult to judge this right, but the darkening effect you've produced here is spot on. Fantastic work, Lonnie. I seems michael sinclair has spent so long cutting out a bunch of flowers that the Friday Challenge had to be rushed right at the end. I like the idea here, moving the balls and table to a field - and, of course, it's the cow that really makes it a field. But given that the sun is so clearly in shot, shouldn't the shadow of the cow relate to it? Interesting mirror technique on the sky, there: and a rather fine sun, too, if a little lacking in yellow for my taste. +++++++++++++++++ And so to the big reveal. Well, the most obvious difference is that this table was laid out the other way around, and I left the triangle in place when I photographed it. But in terms of placement and colour, you got it just right: 
So how do we work out the scale of the balls? Here's a mathematical approach. Measure the distance from the middle of the near edge of the table to the blue ball, which is right in the middle, and it comes to around 660 pixels. Measure the distance from the blue ball to the far edge, and it comes to about 330 pixels. Rather neatly, that means the distant half the the table appears half the size of the near half. In other words, if we wanted to move a ball from the near end to the far end, scaling it 50% would produce the right size. But in this case we want to move the blue ball, since that's the only one we have to work with. Dragging a copy to the near end, we can scale it 150% to make it large enough; dragging a copy to the far end, we can scale by 75%. That maintains the double-size difference between the two ends, and produces the result we want. At least, I think that's how it works. |
Posted on 25/03/11 09:57:47 AM |
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laddition
femme fatale Posts: 585 Reply |
Re: Challenge 343: Snookered
Héhé, je suis démasquée! Thank you, Steve!  _________________ Mais je me connais, je lâcherais pas l'affaire.... Je vais piquer de grève comme on pique une colère... Plus têtue que tous les vieil homme et la mer... Pour que continue le combat ordinaire! |
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