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Posted on 23/05/24 05:01:33 AM
Mariner
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Posted on 23/05/24 5:04:26 PM
DavidMac
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Two nigh on perfect reconstructions from Frank and Mariner. Very nicely done!

A tiny comment to Mariner. One of the problems with your work is that it is always so carefully thought out and executed that an insignificant imperfection can become disproportionately visible. The instant I saw this image one tiny anomaly leapt straight out at me. To my eye, the new door knob is facing completely the wrong way. I hate altering other people's images and very, very rarely do it, but this is a case where a simple picture is going to save a lot of explanation.

I suspect you suffer from the same Photoshop tunnel vision that I do. Time and time again, I get so focused on one aspect of the image that another (often obvious) slips by unnoticed. Steve has picked me up on this more times than I can count.

The left is the knob as it is. The right is how I believe it should be.





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Posted on 24/05/24 08:32:33 AM
Steve Caplin
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First to shut the door this week was lwc, who didn’t actually shut the door on the first image… but the woman fits well, and I like the plane taking off behind. Not sure it should be in the clouds when it’s only a few feet off the ground, though. It’s immaculately shut in the second entry, though – the glass works well. And I like the smiling duck on the plane behind. The rolling wheels entry is interesting: good rotation, and I like the moving floor. But is there a way to avoid the disjunct between the foreground and background here? Maybe a soft mask might do it. The cockpit entry is glorious: everything from the shake of the cockpit to the perfect zoom along the runway, and the sudden appearance of the truck… you nailed it with this one, although I’m not sure the glare version is really an improvement, especially the way the sun dodges around on the landscape. An interesting open hangar entry: why is the truck driving downhill? I can see that you’ve tried to match the angle of the front of the hangar, but the result isn’t quite there. It would work if the truck got bigger as it moved from right to left, since it would be very much closer to the camera.

I thought DavidMac would pick up on the Larry Grayson reference, and it’s good to see the man himself at the wheel. I like the fact that his hand is about to close the door. An intriguing repurposing in the Prisoner entry, with Patrick McGoohan at the wheel: great reflection on the glass (it really does make a difference, doesn’t it) and the penny farthing branding is cute. I especially like the fact you’ve included Rover in the background, although I don’t think it was ever quite that big.

A perfectly closed door from GKB, and I like the new location with the HotChiPs airways branded plane behind. The driver isn’t in a sitting position, though, and it shows. Actually not that hard to bend him into place with Puppet Warp, although moving the arm to hold the wheel would require extra work:



It’s the full Larry Grayson experience from Ant Snell, neatly moved into the airport’s arrivals lounge. I really like how the suitcase conveyor belt has been repurposed: for those not familiar with the show, the winning contestant watches a minute of various household goods going past on a belt, then is allowed to keep all the ones they can remember afterwards. Perfectly done, Ant, complete with reflection of Mr G in the belt. A brilliant idea, very neatly executed.

A meeting of trucks from Ben Boardman – could this be love? A perfectly shut door, with a very convincing driver. I like the idea of the autonomous tractor, although not sure why it would still have a steering wheel. A well matched background, too: altogether spot on, Ben.

I really enjoyed michael sinclair’s excellent on-topic entry, especially the way the plane’s shadow falls over the truck as it takes off. I don’t understand why the truck slides to the left, though, even given your somewhat unconvincing black ice explanation. It would surely have been easy to make it enlarge as it nears the camera, so it could drive off in the direction of the wheels. You’d be able to achieve this in Photoshop if you turn it into a Smart Object first (having first turned each wheel into a Smart Object – see my video on this here. I like the USAF entry, except with the wheels that close to the truck the rear wing should slice through it (now that would be a great animation). Also, you need to watch your perspective on this one: the top of the truck sloping down signifies that it’s well above the horizon. The speeding plane is interesting, although I’m far from convinced by those flames.

An outstanding rebuild from Frank, with a perfectly shut door: the reconstruction of the seat edge, the rear bars, and of course the logo on the side… just perfect. And tucking it behind that side mirror puts it firmly in place. I like the man loading it from behind, who gives it that human element. Excellent work, Frank.

I was amused to see the truck take to the water in tooquilos's entry, harking back to an earlier Challenge – and a very neat conversion it is, too. I like how it drives around in the animated version, although not sure about the woman in the bubble at the top – should she be quite so transparent? I like the Joni Mitchell soundtrack.

It’s interesting to compare Mariner's splendid reconstruction with Frank’s, with their different views on things like how much of the seat should be visible. Again, a very neatly placed logo on the side, although I’m having some difficulty understanding those railings. And David Mac is right about that door handle! Why did you replace the original?

Posted on 24/05/24 09:12:46 AM
DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1005: Shut that door
Steve Caplin wrote:
I especially like the fact you’ve included Rover in the background, although I don’t think it was ever quite that big.


Scaling again! There’s not much to scale to here, but yes I think you are right. I enjoyed this one …… harder than I expected.

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Posted on 24/05/24 09:20:26 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 1005: Shut that door
DavidMac wrote:
Two nigh on perfect reconstructions from Frank and Mariner. Very nicely done!

A tiny comment to Mariner. One of the problems with your work is that it is always so carefully thought out and executed that an insignificant imperfection can become disproportionately visible. The instant I saw this image one tiny anomaly leapt straight out at me. To my eye, the new door knob is facing completely the wrong way. I hate altering other people's images and very, very rarely do it, but this is a case where a simple picture is going to save a lot of explanation.

I suspect you suffer from the same Photoshop tunnel vision that I do. Time and time again, I get so focused on one aspect of the image that another (often obvious) slips by unnoticed. Steve has picked me up on this more times than I can count.

The left is the knob as it is. The right is how I believe it should be.







David thank you for your comments. Below is a photograph i used to produce my image, including the oor handle.



Steve has cricitised me many times for leaving pin-sharp edges on my images. I love pin sharp images. After a week of manipulating those images I am so used to them that they look, to me, much better than the blurry, low-definition images some of our colleagues deem acceptable. Sorry.

Posted on 24/05/24 09:30:52 AM
Mariner
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Re: Challenge 1005: Shut that door
Steve wrote
...And David Mac is right about that door handle! Why did you replace the original?


Steve, your original Charlatte T135 tow truck is a wreck, as you can see by the original photo (above). It was bent, dirty, and missing things, like a door handle, the tyres had were nearly worn out. The orange sunshine did not help its looks. A complete makeover kept me busy for a whole week.

Posted on 24/05/24 12:34:52 PM
Frank
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Thank you Steve - and the others that commented.
Agree with David - it was harder than it looked.

Posted on 24/05/24 3:04:09 PM
lwc
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Re: Challenge 1005: Shut that door
Steve Caplin wrote:
It would work if the truck got bigger as it moved from right to left, since it would be very much closer to the camera.



I agree, thanks Steve!


Posted on 24/05/24 3:04:09 PM
lwc
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Re: Challenge 1005: Shut that door
Steve Caplin wrote:
It would work if the truck got bigger as it moved from right to left, since it would be very much closer to the camera.



I agree, thanks Steve!

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