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Posted on 01/09/26 5:27:41 PM |
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lwc
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Posted on 01/09/26 7:45:00 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Loyd!  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 02/09/26 03:02:06 AM |
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Ben Boardman
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Definitely my sister David. I remember seeing the gas mask in our storage area in my earlier years. |
Posted on 02/09/26 4:15:49 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Yes here too, but when I was a tiny lad buggies were still rare in England. Babies were pushed around in the larger wheeled perambulators which looked like this. 
Just as everybody calls refrigerators ‘fridges’, perambulators were universally called ‘prams’. Nobody ever said ‘perambulator’ ........ it would have been terribly affected, like taking the ‘omnibus’ or going to the ‘gymnasium’. Except we had a very snobbish neighbour (in the big house at the top of the road) who actually did! She pushed her baby around in his ‘perambulator’! It was an english so spectacularly pretentious that, even as tiny kids, my sister and I could see it and would be reduced to fits of helpless giggles. Since then ‘perambulator’ has marked boiling point on my barometer of foolish snobbery. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 02/09/26 8:35:23 PM |
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lwc
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Posted on 03/09/26 05:57:07 AM |
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Mariner
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Posted on 03/09/26 05:57:27 AM |
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Mariner
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Posted on 03/09/26 10:34:38 AM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Very nice job Michael. I like the fact that you haven't over cleaned it. It's still seen use and not showroom fresh. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 03/09/26 1:18:06 PM |
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Mariner
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Thank you David. I was struggling to find a good idea for this one. That ugly old pram should have been recycled by the 1960's. |
Posted on 03/09/26 2:52:14 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Rotate tool fun. Not to be taken too seriously. This was as much fun experiment as entry. Although this would be unthinkable any other way except a full 3D port, the amazing rotate tool started to show that it is still a tool in development and a bit hit and miss. Most of the rotations here it performed very well but a few came out weird and needed some hand rebuilding. This image is effectively a progressive sequence but for no apparent reason the tool would "lose track" and perform some rotatiçns perfectly and others aberrantly. The odd thing is the aberrations didn't seem to have logic within the sequence. I don't have an exact count but it might do, for example, six perfect rotations then seven and eight would be nonsense but nine, ten and eleven would be fine again and twelve another aberration. Oddly the low res rotations looked perfect and it would aberrate on the render. Because of the difficulties the image is unfinished and needs a lot of final tweaking. I got a bit frustrated and didn't bother to put in the all important last ten percent that makes a proper image. It is also worth noting that during the production of the image, when the number of rotatable layers reached about ten, Photoshop itself began to get very slow and unstable and needed to be quit and restarted a couple of times. (M1 Max with 64GB Memory) So if you are going to have large numbers of rotatable layers it might be good policy to rasterise as much as possible as you go.  _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 03/09/26 3:31:10 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
By the way, when the Rotate Object tool first came out, I complained that you couldn't enter precise numerical rotations. I don't know if it's new or if I just never realised it was available, but I noticed doing this image that, if you have it open, this tool has detailed numerical settings in the standard properties window. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 04/09/26 08:51:41 AM |
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Steve Caplin
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First to push the pram this week was lwc, with a remarkably convincing piece of Victoriana. Perspective spot on! (Incidentally, Loyd, for some reason I can view this on my phone and iPad but not on my MacBook. Very odd.) The walking entry is also from a great angle, with well-defined shadows – I particularly like the shadow of the woman on the pram. The baby doesn’t look very impressed, though. The little girl looks justly proud of her pram, and you’ve matched the lighting and overall texture perfectly. Immaculate. Of course, we expect the Minions, with their pink-themed accessories. That wallpaper would drive me mad. What’s the big round thing on the left? It’s off to the races for GKB, with a splendidly branded and helmeted baby at the wheel. Rothmans? How long since cigarette companies were allowed to advertise sporting events? Very nicely done. It could do with an audience. A young Ben Boardman graces this week’s entry, with a remarkably cool-looking mum and dad (love the cream suit). I’m impressed at how you managed to get your sister’s hands to look natural at that odd angle. And your Hop Along Cassidy outfit is worth of its own Friday Challenge – do let me have it in high res! The Baby Corp image is splendid, with its smug occupant. That’s a very well cleaned-up pram, even if the headlights are at the wrong end. Terrific work. It does look as if your sister has taken to her new pram! The shadow on her leg is especially good. What was she originally holding in that hand? Ah – there’s the original photo. Your clean-up is even more impressive. And I’d forgotten about your in-depth knowledge of dolls! I’ve noticed every time DavidMac says he’s stumped he comes up with excellent entries. This week’s is no different: the baby gas mask (I’ve seen them in museums) really is as terrifying as it looks. Fortunately they were never needed, or we’d now have a Mac-aged generation with PTSD. The only thing I’d change here would be to add a back to the woman behind her arm, so she’s leaning forward from a squat rather than backwards with no legs. Interesting to see it so thoroughly outclassed, but there is a qualitative difference in tone and contrast between the posh woman and the rest of the street. I assume you’ve invented the new pram, surely that can’t have been a real thing? You’re really pushing the Rotate Object tool to its limits in the roller coaster image, and really it’s remarkable that it manages it at all. Unfinished? Not from where I’m standing. This must have been a huge amount of work. A beautifully rebuilt pram from dwindt, being pushed by a splendidly-attired woman. I see what you mean about the relative size of the pram. A fine baby, too. There’s a small sense of the pram floating, though; do the shadows need a bit of attention? The reflection in the window is a nice touch. A tatty pram needs a tatty environment, so tooquilos thinks, and it does fit in rather well here (although I’m not sure about the new brown livery). The spinning head in the animated version is more Exorcist than Ann Boleyn and – those eyes! This is the stuff of nightmares. Gosh. Interesting to read about the Element plugin, but surely After Effects has its own animatable 3D tools? An elevated track – “stroller coaster”, in David’s more imaginative phrase – from Ant Snell, with a suitably terrified occupant (and I don’t think the vulture is helping to calm her down). Making the pram double-ended must have been a challenge in itself: I wouldn’t have enjoyed beating that handrail into shape. A thorough makeover from Mariner, who has re-chromed the handle and repainted the wheel arches. That’s a much better baby. There’s something about the handle itself that looks rather two-dimensional, though; would increasing the bevel size fix it? Good to see it in situ, although this image does raise a lot of questions. Why does the woman appear to have a man’s legs? How can she have two babies just a month or two apart in age? Why is her right wrist so thin compared to her left? And where did the builder get those huge square bricks on the corners? |
Posted on 04/09/26 08:56:24 AM |
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GKB
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Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
Thanks Steve. The pram pre-dates the cigarette advertising ban🤣🤣 Didn’t have time for an audience as I had a Eurostar train to catch _________________ Have you ever noticed that all the instruments designed to detect intelligent life are pointing away from the Earth? |
Posted on 04/09/26 09:34:02 AM |
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Mariner
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Thanks, Steve. Lots of baffling questions there. They certainly baffled me! |
Posted on 04/09/26 09:56:03 AM |
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DavidMac
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Funnily this was one of those composites that look straightforward but wasn't. It involved multiple dissections of bits of mother, pram and baby onto separate layers and got quite confusing. I wasn't happy with her and tried rotating her more forward but it didn't work. Your very clever and simple solution quite simply never occurred to me.
As soon as you point it out I can see it! I think a tiny blur and perhaps the teeniest touch of noise would have solved the problem
Amazingly no. I found it as is. I find it hard to believe you could go to Hamleys and just buy one. It could have been photoshopped but it looks to me more like an enthusiast's autocurieau made from a pram chassis and a pedal car. 
Yes it is. Remarkable!. The problems seem to occur in the 2D render not the 3D rotate. I was very slow getting into this one but managed to pick up and really enjoy it. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 04/09/26 4:46:45 PM |
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lwc
Hole in One Posts: 3725 Reply |
Re: Challenge 1120: Vintage perambulation
I'm having the same issues from time to time, sometimes works on iPad and doesn't on the PC. Been acting strange for me over the past couple of months. I'm beginning to think that everything is being taken over by AI and it doesn't always work well. The "big round thing" in the minion bit is the foot of the second bed, like the one behind her. Thanks Steve. had fun with the challenge! EDIT My first entry has worked on my PC all week, just checked and now it does not. Get the little icon, and when clicked on, I get the "these are not the droids you are looking for" message. It just continues to confuse me. |
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