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Posted on 02/07/20 04:39:46 AM
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Posted on 02/07/20 11:10:35 AM
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Just realised my frontier saddlery has an electric floodlight!

Not changing now. It has been posted too long ................

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Posted on 02/07/20 11:55:56 AM
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DavidMac wrote:
Just realised my frontier saddlery has an electric floodlight!

I really like your frontier picture.
I expect the Guru will overlook your slight error.



Posted on 02/07/20 11:59:29 AM
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Vibeke, you and I are obviously singing from the same hymn-sheet. yes, I like your picture.

Posted on 02/07/20 2:04:43 PM
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DavidMac wrote:
Just realised my frontier saddlery has an electric floodlight!

Not changing now. It has been posted too long ................


Maybe it's not a real western town. Maybe it's one of those historical recreation parks.

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Posted on 02/07/20 2:26:24 PM
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DavidMac wrote:
Just realised my frontier saddlery has an electric floodlight!

Not changing now. It has been posted too long ................


You're okay, its really only a security camera...

Posted on 02/07/20 9:30:39 PM
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Owing to current travel limitations British holidaymakers are being encouraged to enjoy the wonderful domestic opportunities that abound along our coastline.




To non Brits. Butlins are the epitome of down market holiday camps.

This is really not well done, but I have left it in for amusements sake.

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Posted on 03/07/20 05:57:46 AM
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Mariner wrote:
Vibeke, you and I are obviously singing from the same hymn-sheet. yes, I like your picture.


Great minds think alike.

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Posted on 03/07/20 06:06:16 AM
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Gordon, your excellent entry brought back some lovely memories for me, I was flying from Nelson to Wellington with my grandson, who was 3 at the time, he was looking out the window, and suddenly he saw 'Tracy Island' he was so excited and kept the whole plane entertained for the rest of the trip with stories of Thunderbirds.

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Posted on 03/07/20 08:47:10 AM
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First to renovate the fisherman’s hut was lwc, with a very neatly created shadow of the opened door. Very quick point: we’re now in effect viewing the open door from the other direction, so you need to flip the glazed area to match our new perspective:



I enjoyed the seagulls in the second entry, and wondered whether there would be a way to make them fly out at the same angle as the hut. That’s a nicely imagined third entry - I like the details of the shadow gap beneath the opened door because the floor slopes away beneath it, and the paper pinned over the left door to explain the lack of transparency. A touch of thickness needed on the door, though.

Splendidly camp frippery from DavidMac, with a magnificent (and perspective-appropriate) interior. I like the transparency of the door glazing, and the way the waves appear to be painted over the wooden boards at the front. Do you think it would be possible to sort out that truncated carpet, though? You have to zoom in to see Loyd’s guest appearance in the second entry, but it’s worth doing - that hut blends perfectly into the Wild West setting. And there’s something hugely evocative about the rainy Butlin’s in the third entry.

A tremendous smugglers’ paradise from michael sinclair. Does the rowing boat appear to wobble slightly in the cruisers’ wake? Good swan flapping. I do find your rushing skies very distracting, though. A fun ending in the second entry - although it does appear as if the dragonfly is mounted on the police launch.

A beautifully conceived new location from Vibeke, horizon bang on the vanishing point. The added fisherman in the foreground adds a key human element - he really makes the scene work. Ridiculously small point it’s barely worth mentioning: bring the side of the jetty down to match the angle of the edge of the dock:



Splendid improvements in the second entry, though, with well placed shadows and a neatly opened door. The wall we can see insure needs to be a touch darker, though, as the sun doesn’t reach it.

A convincingly opened door from Nick Curtain: darkening it down really helps the sense of the side we can see having been kept out of the sun. A perfect interior, too. But yes, you do have an issue with the shadow: if you think about placing a light source behind any object, there’s no way its shadow could taper as its distance increases. With any light source other than an infinite one (such as the sun) this can’t happen:



A stormy coast from tooquilos, complete with misty lighthouse. A truly glorious animated version, with an amazing sea - with leaping dolphins - and neatly opening hut doors. A really beautiful piece of work. I’d love to see that fisherman going back and forth in a rocking chair, though.

A tremendous showbiz entry from JimH, with a singing shark surrounded by dancing crabs with a seal accompaniment. The angle of the two seagulls makes a funny chorus, too. A really entertaining piece of work, Jim, but a couple of points: we’re still looking at the tops of the doors from below, so they need to slope down towards the horizon:



There’s also a major issue with the perspective inside the hut - where are those horizontal beams going? - but there’s no way I have the patience to rebuild your interior!

A touch of genius from Josephine Harvatt, turning the scene into Noah’s boatyard - and I like the subtlety of the faded signs. The light direction on the bears in the foreground is spot on. Perfect, Josephine.

A somewhat flooded scene from GKB, and I have some difficulty working out the logic: is the interior of the hut sloping upwards, to explain the lack of water inside? What are the plastic barrels standing on? And why are there no reflections? Of course, all this pales into insignificance when faced with the gloriously silly animated version. Although I will ask: how does the sub move over the wooden floor without wheels?

A neatly opened door from srawland, with well considered shadows and an interesting interior - what is that? Some kind of fish tank? I’d darken the interior a little, but otherwise this works really well.

A dockside setting from Frank, with some rather fine fishermen statues. Immaculate placing of the hut behind the railings, and the row of seagulls on the roof really makes it. Nice work.

There’s something of the Norman Rockwell about the sailors in Mariner's entry, a truly splendid resetting of the scene. Tremendous attention to detail: the final wrought shadows, the darkened open door, the outer opening window - really beautiful.

Posted on 03/07/20 09:18:36 AM
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Many thanks Steve - I had real fun with this one

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Posted on 03/07/20 09:28:05 AM
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Do you think it would be possible to sort out that truncated carpet, though?
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Yes but not very practicable. It comes as an integral part of the room. Lot of work involved. Discretion and valour an' all that stuff. (Spelt L - A - Z - Y.)

Thanks Steve. This one was fun.



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Posted on 03/07/20 10:01:22 AM
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Steve wrote
There’s something of the Norman Rockwell about the sailors in Mariner's entry, a truly splendid resetting of the scene. Tremendous attention to detail: the final wrought shadows, the darkened open door, the outer opening window - really beautiful

Hey, Steve, I am really glad you liked this one. I put hours of time into it.
I just checked out Norman Rockwell (I was totally unfamilier with his work) and I can see where you are coming from. In my graphic the drunken sailor looks just like Potus, and the man next to him looks like David Beckham.
Thanks for the critique.

Posted on 03/07/20 10:32:06 AM
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Thanks Steve, after a slow start I really enjoyed this one.

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Posted on 03/07/20 10:58:25 AM
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Re: Challenge 812: The fisherman's hut
Thanks Steve!

The bird's perspective is improved by having them appear to get larger as they approach the foreground... as shown in this quick and crudely done example:





Posted on 03/07/20 1:19:31 PM
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lwc wrote:
Thanks Steve!

The bird's perspective is improved by having them appear to get larger as they approach the foreground




Yes, that does it.

Posted on 03/07/20 1:25:03 PM
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Re: Challenge 812: The fisherman's hut
Thanks Steve, I enjoyed doing this image.

Regarding the shadow, my starting point was the angle cast by the nearest fence post and my thinking was that as both the door and post are vertical, then the angle must be the same.

So I wondered what if you opened the door fully, i.e. that box is not there and the door sits against the wall? The shadow cast by the top right of the opened door would be to the left of that cast by left hand top. (as we view the door closed)

It occurred to me that as the door swings closed, the top right door shadow will move round and eventually resemble what you have created. However, as the door is opened by more than 90 degrees and the sun is not 90 degrees to the hut, it would not have reached that point, hence my interpretation with taper.

As said, a tricky one.

Nick


Posted on 03/07/20 2:25:14 PM
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Thanks Steve! I tried to hide the beams in the shed but it looked even worse so gave up in the end and hoped you wouldn't notice!!

Posted on 06/07/20 7:51:06 PM
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Re: Challenge 812: The fisherman's hut
Thanks Steve. Lots of work in that one.
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