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Posted on 23/03/24 3:10:21 PM
Frank
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Generative Fill
I found this comprehensive tut on Generative Fill and thought others may want to have a look at this new tool. In a way it replaces and is superior to Content Aware Fill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cwAnLZPa1M&t=4



Posted on 25/03/24 3:33:00 PM
DavidMac
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Re: Generative Fill
Thank you Frank for posting this.

At first, I almost didn't pursue this tutorial because of its hideous soulless computer generated voice. Aside from closely resembling "The train now standing at platform number nine is the ten fifty four to Brighton." and possessing all the same enthusiasm and interest, it is very hard to follow at times. But I am glad I persisted.

The content is very comprehensive. Most of it I knew already but I found it to be full of all sorts of things that seemed completely obvious but which, in truth, I had never thought of for myself. The small tips are often much more useful than the main instructions.

Certainly, having watched this, I will be able to use generative fill much more usefully and apply it in certain ways for things, other than simply filling, that had never occurred to me.

I am, however, very ambivalent about AI and rarely use it consciously. If I was a professional with deadlines to meet I would probably use it a lot for the sheer ease and speed. Indeed I would probably have little choice because my competitors would be using it and I would be obliged to follow suit to keep up.

But I am not a professional, I am someone who photoshops for the challenge and pleasure. I am not necessarily delighted to see twenty five years of acquired skills replaced by a machine. Where's the pleasure and challenge in that?

Obviously every time I a make a selection with PS's AI assisted tools it's doing much of the work for me and I am happy to reap the benefits. The same applies to fills and removals with the new AI assisted remove brush. Basically I am very happy to have it help me with all sorts of tedious and purely technical grunt work. I am an accomplished cook and take great pride and pleasure in pleasing and satisfying my friends with my accomplishments but, even though I take huge pride in my knife skills, I am quite happy to use a food processor for the grunt work.

But I presently do draw the line at allowing AI to create for me. It would be the equivalent of serving my guests microwave ready instant frozen meals instead of taking pride in cooking for them myself. An accomplishment robbed not only of soul and pleasure, but of personality as well.

The difficulty is that the dividing line is very precarious and volatile. Just where that line falls is very personal and hard to define.

Back in the early twentieth century Heinz canned baked beans became a household name, not by being a wonderful version of the 'real' thing, but by convincing the public that that was what baked beans really were. AI is, to my mind, similar. Image searches are becoming swamped with predictably accomplished and perfect images - lacking only a soul ..... art reduced to take away pizza. Just like baked beans, the generation raised on this will come to view it as the real thing, which, in a sense, it will indeed have become.

Forgive me, but I find that saddening.

An awful lot of people will be ready to call me elitist and out of touch. Maybe I am but, if that's what it means, I'm happy to carry the label.

So to go back to where I started, if you want to improve how you use generative fill, this albeit rather dull tutorial is nonetheless packed with lots of very useful information and ideas!

David Mac


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Posted on 25/03/24 10:48:51 PM
Frank
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Re: Generative Fill
Agree David at not allowing AI to create for us, however I do see utility in some of the functions mentioned in this tut. Yes we are using AI selection options and the AI Remove tool.
Apparently this is just the tip of the iceberg and from what I understand some amazing improvements are on the way in the not to distant future.
I guess it will be up to the individual as to what extent they want to jump in.

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