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Posted on 06/06/11 7:07:47 PM
chris berry
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SiteGrinder
Hi folks
Steve has suggested SiteGrinder as a software option for building a website. I'm now thinking of offering website design/copywriting as a freelance service.
Has anybody worked with SiteGrinder, and can it be used for client websites? In other words, is it as professional a tool as Dreamweaver (which I really can't use!!)

Any help gratefully received.

Chris

Posted on 06/06/11 7:59:54 PM
Sophie
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Re: SiteGrinder
Hi Chris,
I'm not necessarily the person with the best knowledge of Sitegrinder as I have not yet managed to build a website with it but have made a start.

First off, if you are familiar with Photoshop and in particular with Layer Comps, you are on the way as it works as a plug-in from within Photoshop. The learning curve is steeper than implied by the makers in the advertising. No surprise there. Same with the other systems. The online help material is rather fragmented but the forum and help teams do respond.

Secondly, providing you buy the add-on for content management, your clients will be able to edit/amend their own websites with any internet connection.

Hope this helps a little.

Posted on 07/06/11 09:31:03 AM
chris berry
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Re: SiteGrinder
Sophie wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm not necessarily the person with the best knowledge of Sitegrinder as I have not yet managed to build a website with it but have made a start.

First off, if you are familiar with Photoshop and in particular with Layer Comps, you are on the way as it works as a plug-in from within Photoshop. The learning curve is steeper than implied by the makers in the advertising. No surprise there. Same with the other systems. The online help material is rather fragmented but the forum and help teams do respond.

Secondly, providing you buy the add-on for content management, your clients will be able to edit/amend their own websites with any internet connection.

Hope this helps a little.


Thanks Sophie

Posted on 12/06/11 5:29:25 PM
Paul 2011 onwards
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Re: SiteGrinder
Personally, if I had paid for a custom site I would be very disappointed that it was created with site grinder. It wouldn't give me any confidence at all in the designer's skills.

One would hope that it had been coded and optimised by hand.

If you cannot create a decent website with nothing more than Notepad and Firefox I don't think you should be trying to offer this as a service.

Learn HTML, PHP, MYSQL, JAVASCRIPT and possibly jQuery and you'd be a better man for it.



Posted on 12/06/11 5:33:47 PM
chris berry
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Re: SiteGrinder
Paul 2011 onwards wrote:
Personally, if I had paid for a custom site I would be very disappointed that it was created with site grinder. It wouldn't give me any confidence at all in the designer's skills.

One would hope that it had been coded and optimised by hand.

If you cannot create a decent website with nothing more than Notepad and Firefox I don't think you should be trying to offer this as a service.

Learn HTML, PHP, MYSQL, JAVASCRIPT and possibly jQuery and you'd be a better man for it.




Cheers Paul
I'll start with DreamWeaver.

Posted on 14/06/11 02:14:25 AM
LagoDiLecco
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Re: SiteGrinder
Hey Paul,
I didn't want to comment because I don't know Sitegrinder, but I do have a background in software development and I've used Dreamweaver.

I don't think you need to know all of "HTML, PHP, MYSQL, JAVASCRIPT and possibly jQuery". Some of these are significant areas of study in themselves. For example, if you're not going to modify or create a relational database, you may never need to touch MySQL in your life.

So, it all depends what you want to do with your website, but my suggestion would be to start with basic HTML and bite the bullet with Dreamweaver. If nothing else, it will provide a useful tool to for developing sample web pages.

If you want to sell things on your site, then have a look at some of the free tools which Paypal offer. They even offer code snippets for you to embed in your pages.

If you need a full blown shopping cart, there are free versions, such as osCommerce (which is where PHP comes in, but only if you want to modify the cart from "plain vanilla").

If you want your site to rank better in the search engines (e.g google) then there is another whole area of study - "SEO" (search engine optimisation). But Google offers some simple tips and recommendations.

If you want more info, feel free to ask.



Posted on 14/06/11 02:16:57 AM
LagoDiLecco
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Re: SiteGrinder
Oops. Sorry, Paul. I meant "Hey Chris". Not that I have anything against.. oh, Hey Paul as well. I'm off to take my foot out of my mouth...
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