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Posted on 26/05/19 2:32:49 PM |
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GKB
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St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
St. Davids in Pembrokeshire is the UK’s smallest city with a population of c.2000 and an area of just one quarter of a square mile. St Davids was given ‘city’ status in the 16th century but the cathedral’s origins go back to 589AD when a monastery was founded on the site by St David. It was visited by William the Conqueror in 1081. Construction of the cathedral itself was begun around 1180. The cathedral is set in a substantial fold of land making it difficult for invaders, including Vikings, to see from the sea. This, unfortunately, did not stop various attacks between 640 AD and 1097 AD which resulted in many deaths in the community including some of the monks. This is one of a series of infrared images I shot during a recent trip to Wales.  _________________ Time flies like an arrow but fruit flies like a banana. |
Posted on 27/05/19 11:07:39 AM |
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DavidMac
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Very interesting. At first glance it could almost be a negative. It reminds me of the old black and white days with a heavy orange or red filter to darken the sky ...... except that would darken the green foliage as well. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 27/05/19 9:36:41 PM |
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lwc
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Very nice Gordon... gotta love IR. |
Posted on 28/05/19 08:49:08 AM |
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GKB
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
... and one more of the cathedral; this one shot with an 8mm fisheye lens, hence the curvature at the edges.  _________________ Always remember that you are unique - just like everyone else. |
Posted on 28/05/19 09:42:48 AM |
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DavidMac
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Not wild about the fish eye but otherwise lovely. Feels like a super fine steel engraving. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 28/05/19 6:41:05 PM |
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Steve Caplin
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Beautiful image. But I have to agree with David about the fisheye.  |
Posted on 28/05/19 10:47:03 PM |
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Frank
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Lovely images Gordon !!! |
Posted on 29/05/19 12:50:54 PM |
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GKB
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Thanks for your comments David, Frank and Steve. I thought that my original post sounded a bit ott so I have deleted it. Sorry if you don’t like the fisheye lens images. Chacun a son gout. _________________ If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. |
Posted on 30/05/19 1:20:32 PM |
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lwc
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
I came back this morning to re-read your original post Gordon, I found it quite thought provoking. Questions to self: When does a photograph become art? What makes a photograph art? Subject? Lens? Photoshop? I think I like almost everything in art... from the Dutch Masters to Jackson Pollock, and often those works that are totally OTT. |
Posted on 30/05/19 6:09:48 PM |
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GKB
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Sorry I deleted the post. It was really a ‘stream of consciousness’ kind of thing where I got a little too carried away with my thoughts. Personally I would re-purpose your question to read ‘When does anything become art?’ To my mind art is in the eye of both the beholder and also the perpetrator. Whether it is a painting, a carving, a piece of glass or a photograph it is art if you want it to be so. The question with a photograph is where does a snap of your child stop being just a snap and becomes a properly lit and composed portrait of that self same child? Which of those two images is ‘art’? When does a child’s painting of stick people suddenly become a Lowry? As you say I also like the Dutch masters, particularly their ability to paint glass, refraction, reflections, metal and cloth. But there are many branches of art that leave me stone cold such as old religious paintings yet my wife loves that kind of thing. Am I wrong to dislike something while others rave about that self same thing? There was a time when I disliked Picasso but, as I proceeded through life I began to appreciate him more. Who knows, in centuries to come I might even appreciate Damien Hirst and Tracey Emin  ... that should elicit a response somewhere on the forum 
I’ll stop there as I have just realised that I’m on another stream of consciousness.  _________________ If at first you don't succeed then skydiving is not for you. |
Posted on 30/05/19 9:05:35 PM |
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DavidMac
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Art is two sided. It needs both creators and spectators. Is art art if there is no one to appreciate it, or is it the sound of one hand clapping? But if art is indeed in the eye of the beholder how do we judge or decide what is art on a more general scale? Tracy Emin is a case in point. For her whatever she says is art is art. So she can present unmade beds etc. as art because she says it is. Anyone who dares to contradict can happily be attacked as an ignorant insensitive philistine. Which, of course, might just be true. The same applies to Damien Hearst and some instances go back as far as Warhol. Maybe much further ..... who knows? The art of modern art is as bound up in understanding publicity and exploitation as it is in 'art'. Tracy and Damien are good enough at this (and just possibly have enough conviction and belief in themselves) to carry it off. But, to my simple mind, this comprehension of the publicity machine and manipulation of the system makes them as much artists as it makes Nigel Farage a man of integrity. But that's just my personal, and probably ignorant and prejudiced, point of view. _________________ The subtlety and conviction of any Photoshop effect is invariably inversely proportional to the number of knobs on it ....... |
Posted on 01/06/19 06:55:40 AM |
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Nick Curtain
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Re: St Davids Cathedral, Pembrokeshire
Great effect achieved Gordon - fabulous work. Nick |